Education (Teaching Council of Aotearoa New Zealand) Amendment Bill – Committee Stage – Part 1 – V..
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Education (Teaching Council of Aotearoa New Zealand) Amendment Bill – Committee Stage – Part 1 – V..


there was some hire madam chair somehow madam chair some higher power hi cream cheese yeah you know clearcoat sohcahtoa I wanted to take a moment to respond to members opposite and remind the people at home that national values teachers absolutely and we value teachers such that on the education council which we put together six of the appointed people on their body we’re in fact registered teachers because they had the competencies skills and diversity of experience to make for a strong governance body the argument we have against this piece of legislation is that the changes are unnecessary they are costly and they will not advance the ability of this cap organization to fulfill its core functions in fact at no stage during this debate at mr. chair have we had a speaker stand up and really present to us a case for change we have never really had a speaker say this is what the current education councils getting wrong here is the decision that which shouldn’t have made here is the process that could be improved here is the egregious zero that it’s made no there has been no such example because the reality is that there is no case for change so it does come with the cost seven hundred thousand dollars that members opposite are quite happy to throw at a name change but the item I want to turn to in this contribution mr. chair relates to this very issue of Independence which is a word that’s been bandied about by both the minister and others this evening claiming that somehow by having an elected process this body will become more independent and I would like to point out that in fact the elected process does open up this body to be teach your politicization which could be dangerous to its underlying mission and and the reason I say that is because we only need to look to history to see how many people actually have voted in these elections so in 2000 it’s a very good question Semyon Brown how many registered teachers are there that were eligible to vote last time 100,000 100,000 953 now of those 100,000 how many do you think voted 70,000 someone sees no you’ll have to go lower what do you think it would have been look I’m sorry you left to go lower again try it try one spray wordsmith even made mr. chair only thirteen thousand eight hundred and sixty-five people actually voted thirteen point seven percent so then I asked the minister who sits in the chair tonight in that context with such a small proportion of people have shown willingness to vote for these members how who is that that we expect will be elected because I would venture a guess that the people that are most likely to be elected are those that have access to the resources of a nationwide body that’s used to running campaigns and used to doing a bit of advocacy and has access to a broad spectrum of membership and I would suggest that the PPTA and in CDI may be able to influence that election process and Julie and I would ask the Minister whether this is something he has considered and whether he has any concern about that or is this not an issue that that is of concern to the Minister because as we said on the Select Committee we did have some members submit members of a set will remember mr. crusts Ava cambrie who suggested explicitly that the change he would like to see is that they be specific representation for the post primary Teachers Association as the voice for secondary teachers and I want to be very clear that I recognize the role of the PPTA which has a function that is important in terms of advancing its own members but the purpose of this council should not just be about the interests of teachers it needs to be about the interests of children of young people and it needs to be about advancing the interests of Education and so what we do not want to see is a politicization of who is appointed to that body and that is why it is very important that these elections are if they are going to happen in some way accountable to some sort of process so I have a pope proposed an SOP which would make mean that the rules for made by the teachers Council under Section 388 after each election those rules would have to be reviewed so you have to see how the election actually had gone what measures actually supported or suppress voter turnout were their efforts by people to actually get out the vote or to suppress the vote where the rules actually appropriately enforced and how did those rules operate and practice because if the minister wants to stand on the high horse of democracy accountability and independence he better also be prepared to stand on the horse that says that those things have been delivered by the process that this bill sets up and I would venture to this house that as it is currently formulated we are not going to see the vast majority of teachers voting we are only going to see a small group and I would therefore venture that it is a very large claim to make to say that this will be a democratically elected Roger I call the Honourable mr. Chia oh just quickly run through a few of the points that have been raised I think

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