House Session 2011-12-08 (12:33:58-13:50:03)
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House Session 2011-12-08 (12:33:58-13:50:03)


THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PLAY VALUABLE ROLES IN ENSURING THAT AMERICANS BREATHE CLEAN AND HEALTHY AIR. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLELADY’S TIME IS RESERVED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA. I CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION.
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THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. I THANK THE CHAIRMAN. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW THE E.P.A. TO OVERRIDE THE STATE AND LOCAL REGULATIONS AND THEREBY GUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL. LET’S REMEMBER WHAT THE COMMONSENSE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL IS, THERE’S NOTHING RADICAL AT ALL ABOUT THIS BILL. AND IN FACT IN SECTION 3 THIS BILL PROTECTS PUBLIC HEALTH. IT PROTECTS PUBLIC HEALTH BY RELYING ON THE STATE AND LOCAL REGULATORS WHO ARE BEST EQUIPPED TO MAKE JUDGMENTS ABOUT NATURALLY OCCURRING DUST. AND DOES NOTHING, DOES NOTHING AT ALL TO AFFECT THE PARTICULATE MATTER STANDARD. AND I THINK THAT THAT’S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IN AS MUCH AS IT SEEMS THAT THE OPPOSITION SEEMS TO WANT TO FORGET THAT. LET’S REMEMBER THE ULTIMATE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL AND THAT IS TO PROTECT THE FARMER AND THE RURAL BUSINESSES FROM OVERREACHING FEDERAL REGULATION THAT CAUSES UNCERTAINTY AND IT CAUSES JOB LOSS. HOWEVER, THE E.P.A. AND THE OPPOSITION TALKS ABOUT THE MYTH. THEY SAY THERE’S MORE LIKELY THAT THE E.P.A. WOULD REGULATE FAIRY DUST. THEY SAY THAT THIS IS A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM. BUT OUR FARMERS KNOW BETTER, OUR RURAL BUSINESS OWNERS KNOW BETTER. THEY KNOW BETTER BECAUSE THEY’RE ABLE AND HAVE LOOKED AT THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS AND THE PROPOSALS FROM THE E.P.A. STAFF THAT’S DATED BACK IN APRIL IN WHICH THEY PROPOSE LOOKING AT — AND REVISING THE PM-10 STANDARD. THEY ALSO HAVE SEEN THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO MY OFFICE IN MAY OF THIS YEAR IN WHICH MRS. MCCARTHY, THE ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR, MAKES IT CLEAR THAT AGRICULTURE AND AGRICULTURAL DUST AND DUST COMING OFF OF ROADS IS ABSOLUTELY WITHIN THE LARGER — LARGER VIEW OF THESE STANDARDS. THAT’S WHAT OUR FARMERS KNOW.
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BUT MOST OF ALL THEY KNOW THEIR EXPERIENCE. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE ENDURED OVER THE YEARS, OVER THE DECADES OF WHAT COMES OUT OF WASHINGTON
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AND HOW IT EFFECTS THEIR EVERYDAY LIFE. IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR TRACK RECORD, YOU CAN ONLY SEE WHY THERE IS UNCERTAINTY AND WHY THEY BELIEVE THIS IS A VERY, VERY REAL THREAT. I AM PROUD TO BE ABLE TO TRAVEL ACROSS MY RURAL DISTRICT IN SOUTHSIDE VIRGINIA AND CENTRAL VIRGINIA AND TALK TO FARMERS. IN AUGUST I SAT DOWN WITH A GROUP OF FARMERS. AND ONE OF THE FARMERS THAT WAS
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GROWER. THERE IS A PEACH FARMER, A FRUIT AND HE SAID TO ME, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, MR. HURT, HE SAID, ON MY FARM, WHERIFY FAMILY’S BEEN FOR GENERATIONS, GROWING PEACHES TO FOR OUR CUSTOMERS, HE SAYS, I’M
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LABOR. REGULATED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE. THE F.D.A.
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THE I.R.S., DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, THE E.P.A. AND THE LIST GOES ON WHEN YOU ADD THE STATE AND LOCAL REGULATORS. HE SAYS, I’M REGULATED BY ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT AGENCIES, MOST OF THEM FEDERAL AGENCIES, AND ALL I’M TRYING TO DO IS GROW A PEACH. HOW HARD CAN IT BE? AND I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMMONSENSE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD GUT IT AND IT IS FOR THAT REASON THAT I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. DOES THE GENTLEMAN YIELD BACK HIS TIME?
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I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLELADY FROM THE VIRGIN
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ISLANDS HAS 30 SECONDS REMAINING. I’D LIKE TO ADD THAT MY AMENDMENT DOES NOT
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STATE, LOCAL AND TRIBAL TAKE AWAY ANY AUTHORITY FROM THE GOVERNMENTS, IT JUST ENSURES THAT THEY SET STANDARDS THAT ARE BASED ON THE PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WITH THAT I
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TIME. YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLELADY FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. I ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-317. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARKANSAS SEEK RECOGNITION? MR. SPEAKER, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-317 OFFERED BY MR. CRAWFORD OF ARKANSAS. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 487, THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARKANSAS, MR. CRAWFORD, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED WILL EACH CONTROL FIVE MINUTES.
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THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MY AMENDMENT IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND I BELIEVE IT
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AMOUNT OF INTERAGENCY WILL HELP PROVIDE THE PROPER COMMUNICATION WITH THE E.P.A. WHEN THEY GO TO WRITE AIR QUALITY STANDARDS FOR PARTICULATE MATTER. THE LEGISLATION BEING CONSIDERED TODAY EXCLUDES NUISANCE DUST FROM THE E.P.A. REGULATORY NET BUT THE BILL PROVIDES AN EXEMPTION IF THE E.P.A. DETERMINES THAT THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF REGULATING DUST OUTWEIGH THE COST. MY AMENDMENT WOULD SIMPLY DIRECT THE E.P.A. TO CONSULT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE IN MAKING ITS DETERMINATION. AS A MEMBER OF THE AG COMMITTEE I’VE HEARD TESTIMONY FROM BOTH THE SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE AND THE E.P.A. ADMINISTRATOR ON HOW THEIR RESPECTIVE AGENCIES PROPOSE AND WRITE REGULATIONS. A PROBLEM BECAME APPARENT TO ME
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THAT THE TWO AGENCIES DON’T SEEM TO COMMUNICATE. NEITHER AGENCY COULD GIVE ME A SUFFICIENT EXPLANATION OF THE PROTOCOL FOR INTERAGENCY COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE E.P.A. AND THE USDA. THEIR RESPONSES WERE BUREAUCRATIC AND VAGUE. I FIND THIS TROUBLING BECAUSE IF YOU ASK THE FARMERS AND RANCHERS IN MY ARKANSAS DISTRICT ABOUT THE GREATEST THREAT TO THEIR OPERATIONS THEY ALWAYS RESPOND WITH THREE LETTERS, E.P.A. I DON’T THINK THEIR RESPONSE WOULD BE THE SAME IF BOTH AGENCIES WORKED TOGETHER MORE OFTEN. PERHAPS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THE RIGHT HAND NOT KNOWING WHAT THE LEFT HAND IS DOING OCCURRED THIS PAST SUMMER WHEN THE PRESIDENT WAS IN HIS HOME STATE OF ILLINOIS FOR A TOWN HALL EVENT. ONE FARMER ASKED THE PRESIDENT WHY THE E.P.A. WAS TARGETING NEW REGULATIONS AT FARMERS AFTER A DIFFICULT GROWING SEASON THROUGH THE MIDWEST AND MIDSOUTH THIS YEAR. THE PRESIDENT POINTED TO SECRETARY VILSACK FOR BACKUP AND ASKED THE FARMER TO EXPLAIN THE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS. THE FARMER CITED RULES THAT WOULD BE CRIPPLING TO THE AG COMMUNITY INCLUDING REGULATING
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FARM DUST. PRESIDENT OBAMA DEFIANTLY DISMISSED THE QUESTION BY SAYING, QUOTE, DON’T ALWAYS BELIEVE WHAT YOU HEAR. HE LATER TOLD THE CROWD, IF YOU EVER HAVE A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER IT’S GOING TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR YOU TO FARM, CONTACT USDA. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE PRESIDENT DIDN’T UNDERSTAND IT’S E.P.A. NOT THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE THAT WAS THE SOURCE OF THIS MAN’S FRUSTRATIONS. YET THE — IF THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T REALIZE THAT THE E.P.A. IS COMING DOWN HARD ON OUR NATION’S FARMERS AND RANCHERS THEN WHY WOULD THE AGENCY ITSELF FIND IT NECESSARY TO CONSIDER AGRICULTURE IN PROPOSING REGULATIONS? CLEARLY IT DOES NOT. MY AMENDMENT WOULD ENSURE THAT THE E.P.A., THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE WORK TOGETHER IF THE E.P.A. SEEKS TO FURTHER REGULATION THE AGRICULTURE INDUSTRY IN THE FUTURE. THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE UNDERSTANDS THE ECONOMIC WELL-BEING OF OUR NATION’S FARMERS AND RANCHERS BETTER THAN ANY OTHER AGENCY AND SHOULD HAVE A DEGREE OF INPUT WHENEVER THE E.P.A. WRITES RULES THAT DIRECTLY IMPACT FARMERS AND RANCHERS. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD BE A SMALL BUT IMPORTANT STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. AND WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD BACK. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. MEERM MR. SPEAKER, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I BE ABLE TO CONTROL THE TIME THAT WOULD BE ALLOTTED TO THOSE IN OPPOSITION. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. FOR FIVE MINUTES. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS BILL IS — THE CRAWFORD AMENDMENT SIMPLY REQUIRES E.P.A. TO CONSULT WITH THE SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE BEFORE MAKING ANY DETERMINATION ABOUT THE HEALTH THREAT POSED BY POLLUTION IN AN AREA AS WELL AS THE COST AND BENEFITS OF TAKING ACTION. I DON’T KNOW THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE HAS MUCH TO CONTRIBUTE IN TERMS OF THE HEALTH THREATS, BUT THE BILL IS SO OBJECTIONABLE ALREADY, IT IS HARD TO ARGUE THAT THIS AMENDMENT MAKES IT DECERTAINABLY WORSE. IT’S A DROP IN A VERY LARGE BUCKET. FOR THAT REASON I WILL NOT OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AND WE’RE WILLING TO ACCEPT IT. BUT I STILL AM IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.
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I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM
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ARKANSAS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 4 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-317. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE
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GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS SEEK RECOGNITION? I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER 4 OFFERED BY MR. MARKEY OF MASSACHUSETTS. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 48 7, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. MARKY, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS. I YIELD MYSELF TWO
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AT THIS TIME. MINUTES. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. IN THIS LEGISLATION THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY EXEMPTS ALL SO-CALLED NUISANCE DUST FROM THE PROTECTIVE AIR QUALITY STANDARDS FOR COARSE PARTICLE OR SOOT POLLUTION UNDER THE CLEAN AIR ACT. REPUBLICANS HAVE DEFINED NUISANCE DUST TO INCLUDE PARTICULATE MATTER THAT IS GENERATED FROM EARTH MOVING OR OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT ARE TYPICALLY CONDUCTED IN RURAL AREAS. THIS LEGISLATION’S BROAD DEFINITION MEANS A BILL WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ABOUT TRACTORS AND FARMS IS ACTUALLY ABOUT BARRING E.P.A. FROM REGULATING THE TOXIC SOOT THAT COMES OUT OF MINES, SMELTERS, CHEMICAL PLANTS. AND THAT’S BECAUSE ALL OF THESE MATERIALS COME FROM EARTH MOVING, NATURAL MATERIALS ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE IN RURAL AREAS. NOW, I DON’T KNOW ABOUT THE MAJORITY BUT WHEN MOST PEOPLE HEAR THE WORD NUISANCE THEY THINK OF THINGS LIKE HONKING,
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TELEMARKETTERS AND BUZZING FLIES THEM. DON’T THINK OF POISON. BY PREVENTING E.P.A. FROM REGULATING THE TOXIC SOOT SPEWING OUT OF MINING OPERATIONS, SMELTERS, CHEMICAL FACILITIES AN CONSTRUCTION SITES, REPUBLICANS HAVE APPARENTLY DECIDED THAT POISONOUS CHEMICALS SUCH AS ARSENIC, LEAD AND MERCURY ARE MERE NUISANCES. THIS FALSE ADVERTISING IS NOT A TOTAL SURPRISE. WE HAVE HEARD FROM REPUBLICAN WITNESSES IN THE PAST WHO IN DEFENSE OF THE MOST POLLUTING INDUSTRIES HAVE UNWILLINGLY OFFERED UP THE ABSURD. IN FACT, IN THE LAST CONGRESS, AT A HEARING I CHAIRED, THE REPUBLICAN WITNESS SAID HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO SPRINKLE ARSENIC-LACED COAL ASH ON HIS CEREAL. IT TURNS OUT THAT THE REPUBLICAN WITNESS IS NOT ALONE IN HIS SUGGESTION TO USE ARSENIC AS A DIETARY SUPPLEMENT. ARSENIC, WHICH IS A MAJOR COMPONENT OF MINING ACTIVITIES, WAS FAMOUSLY USED TO POISON AND KILL A NUMBER OF PROMINENT PEOPLE THROUGHOUT HISTORY, INCLUDING IN A POLE ON, KING GEORGE IIU — NAPOLEON, KING
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CHINA. GEORGE III AND THE EMPEROR OF IN THE 19TH CENTURY — THAT THE POINT I WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN
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RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA.
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I CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION. I THANK THE CHAIRMAN AND APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN FROM BOSTON’S ARGUMENTS HERE ABOUT THE FACT THAT — OR SUGGESTING THAT THIS BILL SOMEHOW EXEMPTS ARSENIC AND ALL THESE POISONS AND THE REALITY IS, IT DOES NOT. IT’S AN UNNECESSARY AMENDMENT, IT, ONE, IS TO MAKE A POINT THAT I THINK IS INFLATED. THE REALITY IS EMISSIONS OF ARSENIC ABOVE THE STANDARD WOULD STILL BE IN VIOLATION OF A E.P.A. RULES. THE ALSO THEN EXIST IF YOU’RE MOVE THE GOAL POST TO A ZERO PARTICULATE, THEN WE’VE GOT A DIFFERENT ISSUE HERE. NOW, THE DUST THAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT FROM AGRICULTURAL ACTIVITIES, PLOWING, HARVESTING, DRIVING ON ROADS, IN OUR OWN DEFINITION SAYS THAT IT CONSISTS PRIMARILY OF SOIL AND OTHER NATURAL AND BIOLOGICAL MATERIALS. SO IF YOU’RE GOING TO ADOPT A NEW STANDARD, TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN CURRENT STANDARDS THAT THE E.P.A. ON SUCH ISSUES LIKE ARSENIC, THE REALITY IN RURAL AMERICA IS A NATURAL PART OF OUR SOIL AND WHEN DUST WOULD KICK UP AND BLOW IT WILL BE AT A PARTICULATE LEVEL BELOW WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE AND WE’RE JUST TRYING TO SAY, LOOK, THE REALITY IS THE E.P.A. EVEN SAYS THAT AT THE EXTREMELY MINOR LEVEL OF PARTICULATES THAT WOULD BE INHERENT IN TOPSOIL WIND OR FARMING ACTIVITIES IS NOT A HEALTH RISK. IN FACT, ONE OF THE AUTHORS OF THE E.P.A.’S MOST RECENT INTEGRATED SCIENCE ASSESSMENT FOR PARTICULATE MATTER ISSUED IN 2010 TESTIFIED BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE AND STATED, QUOTE, FOR LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF COARSE PARTICULATES THERE IS NEXT TO NO EVIDENCE IN SUPPORT OF LONG-TERM HEALTH AFFECTS. AND IN RURAL AMERICA, IN NEBRASKA, WE CAN SHOW YOU REAL-LIFE EXAMPLES. IN RURAL AMERICA THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST HEALTH STANDARDS AND LONGEVITY OF LIFE AND HEALTH. SO WITH THAT I WILL LET THE GENTLEMAN CLOSE ON HIS AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK TIME. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS
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BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS. I YIELD MYSELF THE BALANCE OF THE TIME.
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THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. IN THE 19TH CENTURY, MERCURY, ANOTHER COMMON MINING WASTE, WAS USED AS A CURE-ALL FOR TWO THINGS AND OTHER AILMENTS. TURNS OUT THE MERCURY IS ALSO IS HIGHLY TOXIC. IT CAUSES SEVERE IMPACTS ON THE BRAIN, AND THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS THE POISON BEHIND MANY OTHER NOTABLE ILLNESSES AND DEATHS IN THE HISTORY OF OUR PLANET. BY DEFINING NUISANCE DUST THIS WAY, THE REPUBLICANS ARE ESSENTIALLY PROVIDING THE MINING INDUSTRY WITH THE HOLIDAY GIFT OF POLLUTION. INSTEAD OF GOALS, THE REPUBLICANS ARE BEARING GIFTS
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EVERY AMERICAN. OF ARSENIC AND MERCURY FOR THE SO-CALLED NUISANCE DUST DOESN’T INCLUDE POISONOUS ARSENIC OR OTHER HEAVY METALS ARE HAZARDOUS TO HUMAN HEALTH BECAUSE CANCER IS NOT A NUISANCE. THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CHILD’S BRAIN IS NOT A NUISANCE. YET, THE REPUBLICANS WOULD TREAT THESE CONDITIONS AS A NUISANCE RATHER THAN AS MEDICAL CAN T.S.A. ROW FEES FOR THE FAMILIAR — CATASTROPHES FOR THE FAMILIES OF AMERICA. SO LET’S BE CLEAR WHAT THIS BILL IS ALL ABOUT. THIS IS ANOTHER ATTEMPT BY THE REPUBLICANS TO PROTECT BIG COAL BY CREATING ANOTHER LOOPHOLE TO AVOID THE CLEAN AIR ACT SO THAT FAMILIES DON’T HAVE TO WORRY THAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE INHALING THESE DANGEROUS MATERIALS, THE ARSENIC, THE LEAD, THE MERCURY THAT THEY ARE PETRO FIND ARE GOING TO HAVE — PETROIFIED ARE GOING TO HAVE A LONG-TERM AFFECT ON THEIR CHILD’S DEVELOPMENT.
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BOTTOM LINE. THAT’S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. AND THE COAL INDUSTRY IS SAYING NO. THE REPUBLICANS ARE USING THE GUISE OF SOME FARM DUST, CLOUD OF CONFUSION TO MASK WHAT THEY’RE REALLY TRYING TO DO WHICH IS TO ALLOW THE COAL INDUSTRY TO SEND THIS LEAD, THIS MERCURY, THIS ARSENIC UP INTO THE AIR AND INTO THE LUNGS OF CHILDREN ACROSS OUR COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE SO YOUNG THAT WE KNOW IT HAS AN IMPACT ON THEIR DEVELOPMENT. ESPECIALLY OF THEIR BRAIN. SO I URGE AN AYE VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT, AND I DON’T THINK THERE CAN BE A MORE IMPORTANT AMENDMENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON IN THIS CONGRESS, AND I
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TIME. YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE
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AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR,
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ON THAT I ASK THE THE NOES HAVE IT. YEAS AND NAYS. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-317. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE
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GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA SEEK RECOGNITION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. CLERK.
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— THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 OFFERED BY MR. WAXMAN OF CALIFORNIA. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 487, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. WAXMAN, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THIS BILL IS
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NOTHING MORE THAN A BAIT AND SWITCH. THE TITLE SAYS IT’S ABOUT FARM DUST, BUT IN REALITY IT WOULD EXEMPT AIR POLLUTION FROM A NUMBER OF INDUSTRIAL SOURCES FROM THE ENTIRE CLEAN AIR ACT, INCLUDING MINES. THE BILL DEFINES NUISANCE DUST TO INCLUDE PARTICULATE MATTER AND CONSISTS PRIMARILY OF NATURAL MATERIALS THAT’S GENERATED FROM EARTH MOVING. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT DEFINITION, IT WOULD ALLOW EXEMPTION FROM THE REQUIREMENT
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MINES. OF THE CLEAN AIR ACT FROM THIS IS AN EGREGIOUS OVERREACH THAT WOULD ALLOW MINES TO RELEASE PARTICULATE MATTER INTO THE AIR WITHOUT ANY CONTROLS. THE UTAH COPPER MINE SERVES A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY THIS IS A PROBLEM. IT OPERATES ONE OF THE LARGEST OPEN PIT COPPER MINES IN THE WORLD IN UTAH. THE MINE IS EVEN VISIBLE FROM SPACE. EVERY DAY THEY MINE ABOUT ORE, 30,000 TONS OF WASTE ROCK FROM THE MINE. THE OPERATIONS IS THE SINGLE LARGEST SOURCE OF PARTICULATE MATERIAL IN UTAH. THIS MINE IS HAVING — THE MINE IS HAVING A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON AIR QUALITY, EVEN WITH THE POLLUTION CONTROL REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE. THERE IS SIMPLY NO REASON, THEREFORE, TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE BY EXEMPTING THESE MINES FROM REGULATION UNDER THE CLEAN AIR ACT. AND THAT IS WHAT THIS BILL WOULD DO. IT WOULD EXEMPT ALL PARTICLE POLLUTION FROM THE MINE’S ACTIVITIES FROM THE ENTIRE CLEAN AIR ACT. THAT MINE IS NOW MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CLEAN AIR ACT. THEY’RE DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO STOP THE HARM FROM THE POLLUTION FROM THAT MINE. IF WE ADOPT THIS BILL, IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO REFRAIN FROM DOING ANYTHING BUT JUST SIMPLY POLLUTION FORWARD. THESE MINING OPERATIONS KINNECOCH AND OTHERS, WOULD HAVE COARSE PARTICULATE MATTER AND YET UNDER THIS BILL THEY WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM REGULATION. SO MY AMENDMENT SIMPLY CLARIFIES THAT THIS BILL DOES NOT APPLY TO PARTICLE POLLUTION FROM ANY MINING ACTIVITIES. THE SCIENCE SHOWS THAT COARSE AND FINE PARTICLE POLLUTION, REGARDLESS OF THE SOURCE, CAN TRIGGER ASTHMA ATTACKS, HEART ATTACKS, STROKE AND PREMATURE DEATHS AND THAT’S WHY I OPPOSE EXEMPTING THIS FROM THE CLEAN AIR ACT AND THAT’S WHY I OPPOSE THE BILL. AT A MINIMUM, IF WE ADOPT THIS AMENDMENT, WE WILL ENSURE THAT THE BILL IS TRUE TO ITS NAME. THE FARM DUST REGULATION PREVENTION ACT. LARGE INDUSTRIAL MINES AND GRAVEL MINING OPERATIONS SHOULDN’T GET A FREE PASS TO POLLUTE UNDER THE CLEVER PRETENSE OF BEING INVOLVED WITH FARMERS. AND I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT, EXEMPTING THE MINE OPERATIONS FROM COVERAGE UNDER THIS BILL AND MAKING SURE THE BILL ONLY COVERS THE COARSE PARTICULATES FROM FARMING OPERATIONS.
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I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.
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THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME IS RESERVED. THE GENTLELADY FROM WASHINGTON.
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THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. JUST TO LET ME CLARIFY, THE PURPOSE OF THIS LEGISLATION, H.R. 1633, IS TO EXEMPT RURAL DUST FROM COSTLY AND UNNECESSARY FEDERAL REGULATION. IT DOESN’T DO ANYTHING TO EXEMPT ANY KIND OF FACILITY, SOURCE OR MINE FROM ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION. THE PLACE I REPRESENT IS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST WORLD TO MINE. MINING AND AGRICULTURAL DUST IS COMPREHENSIBLELY REGULATED BY MANY, MANY FEDERAL STATUTES CURRENTLY IN PLACE. INCLUDING THE SERVICE MINING AND CONTROL RECLAMATION ACT, FEDERAL MINE SAFETY ACT, RECOVERY ACT, CLEAN WATER ACT, FEDERAL LAND POLICY AND MANAGEMENT ACT, THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT AND MANY OTHERS. THIS INCLUDES REGULATION BY THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR OF DUST FROM WIND EROSION AND VEHICLE TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH MINES. STATE AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES WILL STILL HAVE FULL AUTHORITY TO IMPOSE NUISANCE DUST CONTROLS AND RURAL AMERICA NEEDS CERTAINTY THAT THEY WON’T BE SECOND GUESSED BY THE E.P.A. I URGE A NO ON THIS AMENDMENT. AND BOTTOM LINE, IF YOU STOP
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AND THINK ABOUT IT, THERE’S A STORY HERE. A FORY OF TWO PATHS FORWARD. ONE PATH HAS — A STORY OF TWO PATHS FORWARD. ONE PATH THAT WILL BRING JOB
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AND ECONOMIC INDEPENDENCE TO THIS COUNTRY. THE SECOND PATH HAS BROUGHT AND WILL CONTINUE TO BRING ECONOMIC STAGNATION TO OUR NATION. IS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION SEEMS TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE SECOND PATH. OF COURSE, I’M TALKING ABOUT THE PATH OF E.P.A. OVERREGULATION THAT CONTINUES TO PUT A STRANGLEHOLD ON
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BUSINESSES AND ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THIS COUNTRY. THE NEXT PHASE OF THE E.P.A.’S PATH IS AMERICA’S FARMLAND. WHETHER YOU’RE WORKING IN THE FIELD, HERDING CATTLE OR DRIVING DOWN A DIRT ROAD, THE E.P.A. WANTS TO REGULATE THE DUST YOU PICK UP. THE FARM DUST REGULATION PREVENTION ACT OF 2011 WILL ENSURE THIS PATH IS STOPPED BY PROHIBITING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A STRICTER P.M.T. STANDARD FOR ONE YEAR AND EXEMPTING NUISANCE DUST, LIKE FARM DUST,
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FROM ANY FUTURE P.M.T. REGULATION. I APPLAUD MY COLLEAGUES, REPRESENTATIVES NOEM AND HURT, FOR INTRODUCING THIS IMPORTANT LEGISLATION. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT IT AND WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLELADY’S TIME IS RESERVED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. MR. CHAIRMAN, FARM DUST IS NOT THE SAME THING AS POLLUTION FROM A MINE. AND MY AMENDMENT WOULD EXCLUDE POLLUTION FROM A MINE AS PART OF THIS LEGISLATION SO THAT IT COULD STAY UNDER E.P.A. REGULATION UNDER THE CLEAN AIR ACT AS IT IS TODAY. THERE’S NO REASON TO GIVE THE MINING OPERATIONS WHETHER THEY ARE IN RURAL OR URBAN AREAS A PASS, NOT TO EVEN MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC FROM UNSAFE POLLUTANTS THAT COULD CAUSE HEALTH — ADVERSE HEALTH IMPACTS. I URGE ADOPTION OF THE AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.
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THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLELADY FROM WASHINGTON. MS. MCMORRIS ROGER R.S.C. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I’D LIKE TO — MRS. MCMORRIS RODGERS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I’D LIKE TO YIELD TO THE CHAIR OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
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THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. THIS IS A LITTLE OFF TOPIC. WE HAVE A YOUNG MAN THAT SERVED THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE AND TO ME PERSONALLY FOR MANY YEARS, DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB. HIS NAME IS JEFF MORTIER AND TOMORROW IS HIS LAST DAY AS AN EMPLOYEE FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK HIM FOR THE GREAT JOB THAT HE DID AND TO WISH HIM THE VERY BEST IN HIS NEW ENDEAVOR AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS
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BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE
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BE POSTPONED. GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA WILL IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 6. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE
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GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA SEEK RECOGNITION?
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I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-317 OFFERED BY MR. FLAKE OF ARIZONA. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 487, THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA, MR. FLAKE, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA.
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WHILE THE CLEAN AIR ACT OBVIOUSLY SERVES THE USEFUL PURPOSE, ALL TOO OFTEN STATES AND LOCALITIES ARE TIED UP IN KNOTS JUST TRYING TO COMPLY WITH PROVISIONS OF IT WHILE THE RULES PROMULGATED IN RESPONSE TO THE LAW OR AMENDMENTS TO THE LAW JUST WEREN’T WELL THOUGHT OUT. AND IN THIS REGARD IN 2005 CONGRESS AMENDED THE CLEAN AIR ACT SO STATES AND LOCALITIES COULD GET OFF THE REGULATORY HOOK FOR SO-CALLED EXCEPTIONAL EVENTS, DUST EVENTS, EVENTS THEY CANNOT CONTROL BUT IMPACT AIR QUALITY. IN 2007, THE E.P.A. ADOPTED THE EXCEPTIONAL EVENT RULE IMPLEMENTING CONGRESS’ AMENDMENT TO THE CLEAN AIR ACT, BUT THIS RULE HAS PROVEN FLAWED, COSTLY AND INCONSISTENTLY IMPLEMENTED. LET ME GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT
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. TALKING ABOUT HERE. THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF ONE OF THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED JUST THIS YEAR IN THE PHOENIX AREA, PHOENIX METROPOLITAN AREA. THIS WAS CAUSED BY THE MONSOON. THE MONSOON COMES ALONG AND WHEN IT ROLLS ALONG FLAT GROUND IT TEND TO PICK UP EVERY LOOSE BIT OF DUST OR DIRT THAT’S THERE AND IT CAUSES AN EVENT LIKE THIS. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE STATE OR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN CONTROL. YET WE ARE FORCED TO GO THEN TO THE E.P.A. AND BEG FOR AN EXCEPTION TO THE CHEAP AIR ACT. AND IT’S PROVEN EXTREMELY COSTLY
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OVER AGAIN. WHEN WE HAVE TO DO IT OVER AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.
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THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. MR. CHAIRMAN, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO SPEAK ON THIS AMENDMENT.
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THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. I WANTED TO SAY TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT I THINK HIS AMENDMENT MAKES A GREAT DEAL OF SENSE. IT COMPLIES WITH WHAT I THINK E.P.A. OUGHT TO DO UNDER THESE EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES AND WE ARE PREPARED TO ACCEPT HIS AMENDMENT.
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DOES THE GENTLEMAN Y50E8D BACK HIS TIME?
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I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM
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I THANK THE ARIZONA. GENTLEMAN.
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I’LL JUST SUMMARIZE A LITTLE MORE. IF YOU CAN PUT THAT PICTURE BACK UP WHILE WE ARE SPEAKING HERE. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA HOW PREVALENT THE PROBLEM IS, IN ARIZONA THE MAAG HAS SAID THERE ARE ABOUT 100 EXCEEDENCES OF STANDARD THIS YEAR, ALL BUT ONE, ALL BUT ONE WAS FROM AN EXCEPTIONAL EVENT. DUST STORMS THAT OCCUR NATURALLY. AND SO WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS STATE AND LOCALITIES HAVE TO GO TO THE E.P.A. AND BEG FOR AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE. IN SOME CASES JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE IF YOU TAKE ALL OF THE EVENTS IN 2011, THE ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS HAS ESTIMATED THAT IT WILL COST OVER $1 MILLION, $1 MILLION TO JUST ARGUE AND PUT TOGETHER THE PAPERWORK TO GO TO THE E.P.A. AND SAY THIS WAS A BIG MONSOON THAT CAUSED THIS. IT WAS AN EXCEPTIONAL EVENT. IN THE END THEY MAY RULE IN OUR FAVOR BUT THE COST OF ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH IT, IT’S NOT JUST MIRACOPA COUNTY. THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY THEY HAVE NOTED THAT THE PAPERWORK FOR JUST ONE HIGH WIND EXCEPTIONAL EVENT TAKES MORE THAN 400 STAFF HOURS TO PREPARE, TO GOT TO THE E.P.A. 400 STAFF HOURS FOR ONE EXCEPTIONAL EVENT LIKE THIS. TO GO AND SAY THIS SHOULDN’T COUNT AGAINST OUR AIR QUALITY OR ACCOUNT AGAINST US IN TERMS OF NEW REGULATIONS THAT WILL BE IMPOSED AND COST UPON US. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT AMENDMENT. IT’S NOT JUST AN ACADEMIC QUESTION. I’M GLAD THAT ALL SIDES RECOGNIZE THIS. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM
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AMENDMENT. CALIFORNIA FOR ACCEPTING THE I WISH TO YIELD TIME TO THE IS SPONSOR OF THE BILL ITSELF. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AM A CO-SPONSOR OF THE BILL, THE UNDERLYING BILL, UPON WHICH THIS AMENDMENT WILL BE ATTACHED, AND I SUPPORT IT. I THANK HER FOR HER DOINGED WORK AT BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THE GENTLELADY FROM SOUTH DAKOTA VIRGINIA TECH. MISS — I — THIS WOULD HAVE A SENSE OF CONGRESS THAT THE E.P.A. SHOULD EXCLUDE EXCEPTIONAL EVENTS. THEY WOULD GIVE US A CONSISTENT AND TRANSPARENT MANNER FOR DEALING WITH THESE EVENTS, AND CERTAINLY RURAL AMERICA AND OTHER PARTS OF AMERICA NEED THE CERTAINTY THAT THE REGULATION IS NOT TRIGGERED BY NATURAL EVENTS THAT ARE OUT OF CONTROL.
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AND SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.
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I THANK THE GENTLELADY. THE E.P.A. DOES RECOGNIZE THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE AND THEY ARE WORKING TO CORRECT IT. IT’S JUST TAKING A LONG TIME.
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2007. IN WE HAVE HAD THREE, FOUR YEARS SINCE THAT TIME AND EVERY YEAR IT COSTS STATES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS JUST TO SEEK EXCEPTIONS WITH THESE EXCEPTIONAL EVENTS. SO I — THIS LANGUAGE, THIS AMENDMENT SIMPLY ENCOURAGES THE E.P.A. TO MOVE FOR QUICKLY. AND THAT CONGRESS STANDS READY TO HELP THEM TO FASHION A NEW
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RULE THAT WILL TRULY ACCOUNT FOR THESE EXCEPTIONAL EVENTS. WITH THAT I URGE SUPPORT FOR THE AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.
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THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA. SO MANY AS ARE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO.
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AYES HAVE IT. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. IT’S NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 7 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-317. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS SEEK RECOGNITION? I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.
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THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER 7, PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT NUMBER 112-317, OFFERED BY MR. SCHOCK OF ILLINOIS. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 487, THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. SCHOCK, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS. I RISE TODAY TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT WITH MY GOOD FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, CONGRESSWOMAN SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO OF WEST VIRGINIA. OUR AMENDMENT IS SIMPLE AND SPRORD. IT REQUIRES — STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT REQUIRES THE EP TAUPE CONSIDER THE IMPACT OF NEW AGRICULTURAL JOBS AND THE ECONOMY BEFORE ISSUING NEW RULES AND REGULATIONS. SIMILAR AMENDMENT TO THE CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ACT PASSED THIS HOUSE IN JULY, AND IT ENJOYED BROAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. MY AMENDMENT TODAY SAYS THAT IF JOBS IN THE ECONOMIC WELL-BEING OF FARMERS WOULD BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED, THAT THE E.P.A. WILL BE REQUIRED TO HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE IMPACTED STATE. IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE THE E.P.A. TO NOTIFY THE STATE’S GOVERNOR, LEGISLATURE, AND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. AND IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE E.P.A. POST THEIR ANALYSIS OF THE NEGATIVE JOB IMPACT ON THEIR WEBSITE, REQUEST THE SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE TO DO THE SAME, AND REQUEST THE GOVERNOR OF THAT STATE TO POST THAT SIMILAR ANALYSIS ON THE STATE CAPITAL WEBSITE. I DON’T BELIEVE THIS IS TOO MUCH TO ASK. WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING FOR THE E.P.A. TO CALCULATE THE NUMBER OF JOBS LOST AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON THE AGRICULTURAL
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COMMUNITY WITH A NEW RULE THAT WOULD DO SUCH. IF THEIR CALCULATION TURNS OUT TO BE DETRIMENTAL, WE WANT THE E.P.A. TO LET OUR NATION’S FARMERS KNOW BEFORE THEY IMPLEMENT ADDITIONAL RED TAPE. WE EXPECT THE BUREAUCRATS IN THE E.P.A. HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C., TO GO OUT TO THE REAL WORLD AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THE RULES THAT THEY ARE IMPLEMENTING, THAT THEY ARE SUGGESTING, AND THAT HAVE A REAL EFFECT ON FARMERS WHO ARE TRYING TO RUN THEIR OPERATIONS ACROSS AMERICA. THEY ARE HELPING TO FEED THE WORLD’S POPULATION. THIS PAST WEEKEND THE ILLINOIS FARM BUREAU IN MY HOME STATE HAD THEIR ANNUAL MEETING AND THEY CONDUCT ADD SURVEY OF THE THOUSANDS OF FARMERS WHO PARTICIPATED AT THAT CONVENTION. THEY ASKED THEM AN OPEN-ENDED QUESTION — WHAT POSED THE BIGGEST THREAT TO THEIR FUTURE
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FARMERS? PROFITABLITY AS FAMILIAR THEIR ANSWER? WAS AN INPUT COSTS. LOWER COMMODITY PRICES. LAND PRICES. COMMODITY PRICE SWINGS. NO, THEIR ANSWER WAS OVERWHELMINGLY GOVERNMENT REGULATION. DALE, A FARMER FROM JACKSONVILLE, ILLINOIS, TOLD ME, AND I QUOTE, THE THOUGHT OF THE E.P.A. CONTINUING TO PLACE MORE REGULATION ON MY FARMING OPERATION IS UNFOUNDED. MY FAMILY PRIDES ITSELF ON BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY STEWARDS OF OUR PROPERTY AND MAKING OUR FARM BETTER FOR THE NEXT GENERATION. WE DO IT BETTER HERE THAN ANY OTHER PLACE IN THE WORLD. JAMIE ANOTHER FARMER FROM MY DISTRICT TOLD ME, THAT QUOTE, THE E.P.A. OVERREGULATION HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SHUT US DOWN. WE WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO FARM WITH MODERN EQUIPMENT, LIVESTOCK, WALK ACROSS THE FIELD, AND CREATE DUST WHEN IT’S DRY OUT. WE NEED TO TAKE REGULATORS OUT TO OUR FARMS AND PERSONALLY SHOW THEM THERE IS NO WAY AROUND DUST OR DIRT. IT’S JUST A PART OF THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. LET’S LET DALE, JAMIE, AND OTHER FARMERS IN OUR COUNTRY CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THEY DO BEST AND LET THE E.P.A. BUREAUCRATS UNDERSTAND FIRST BEFORE THEY IMPLEMENT ANY RULE WHAT KIND OF EFFECT, IF ANY, IT WILL HAVE
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ECONOMY THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY. NEGATIVELY ON JOBS AND THE I URGE A YES VOTE AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME
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IS REQUIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. SEEK TIME IN OPPOSITION. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT. WHICH SEEMS TO IGNORE THE REALITY OF HOW AGENCIES COMMUNICATE ALONG WITH THE WELL ESTABLISHED PROCESS FOR HOW E.P.A. PROPOSES AND FINALIZES A RULE. FIRST OF ALL THIS AMENDMENT REQUIRES E.P.A. TO CONDUCT ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC ANALYSIS FOR A BROAD RANGE OF AGENCY ACTIONS THAT COULD AFFECT AGRICULTURE. INCLUDING GUIDANCE DOCUMENTS AND POLICY STATEMENTS. REQUIRING AN EXPENSIVE AND TIME CONSUMING DETAILED ECONOMIC ANALYSIS FOR EVERY POLICY STATEMENT MAKES NO SENSE. SECONDLY, THIS AMENDMENT SINGLES OUT ONE FAVORED SECTOR FOR SPECIAL TREATMENT. WHY SHOULD WE HAVE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT RULE MAKING PROCESS IN PLACE FOR AGRICULTURE? IF THE REPUBLICANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RULE MAKING PROCESS, THEN THEY SHOULD WORK WITH US ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS TO IMPROVE THE WAY RULES ARE ADOPTED FOR ALL SECTORS. NOT JUST ONE. THIS AMENDMENT ALSO ISN’T NECESSARY. E.P.A. ALREADY HAS TO EVALUATE THE COSTS AND BENEFITS OF EACH RULE TO SATISFY REQUIREMENTS IN NUMEROUS STATUTES. WHEN ISSUING A RULE, E.P.A. HAS TO COMPLY WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE ACT, THE PAPERWORK REDUCTION ACT, THE REGULATORY FLEXIBILITY ACT, THE SMALL BUSINESS REGULATORY ENFORCEMENT, FAIRNESS ACT, THE UNFUNDED MANDATES REFORM ACT, SPECIFIC ENVIRONMENTAL STATUTES, EXECUTIVE ORDERS ON REGULATORY PLANNING AND REVIEW, REQUIREMENTS OF THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, AND OTHERS. A MINUTE AGO WE ACCEPTED AN AMENDMENT, THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA, MR. FLAKE, THAT CALLED ON E.P.A. NOT TO HAVE A BURDENSOME PROCESS WHEN THEY WOULD GRANT THE EXCEPTIONAL EVENTS ISSUED FOR NOT TO COUNT A VIOLATION WHEN IT WAS AN EXCEPTIONAL EVENT THAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM. HE ARGUED WE DIDN’T NEED ALL THAT BURDENSOME REGULATION TO GET TO THAT RESULT. THIS ADDITIONAL BURDENSOME REGULATION IS UNNECESSARY. ACCORDING TO THE G.A.O., THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE CLEARLY VOLUMINOUS AND REQUIRE A RANGE — WIDE RANGE OF PROCEDURAL CONSULT AT THISIVE AND ANALYTICAL ACTION ON THE PART OF THE AGENCIES, END QUOTE. THIS AMENDMENT APPEARS TO IGNORE THE WELL ESTABLISHED PROCESS AND INSTEAD WOULD ADD ANOTHER BURDENSOME LAYER TO THE ALREADY LENGTHY REVIEW. IT SERVES NO PURPOSE. IT BOGS DOWN THE AGENCY. IT CREATES MORE BUREAUCRACY. IT COSTS MORE MONEY. IT DOES NOT ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING. AND INSOFAR AS IT ACCOMPLISHES ANYTHING, IT JUST STALLS THE AGENCY FROM ACTING IN ONLY ONE AREA, FOR AGRICULTURE. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AS WELL AS OPPOSE THE UNDERLYING BILL. I RESERVE WHATEVER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME IS RESERVED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS. CAN I INQUIRE HOW MUCH TIME REMAINS? THE GENTLEMAN HAS 1 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WOULD RESPOND TO MY FRIEND FROM CALIFORNIA WITH A COUPLE OF POINTS. FIRST OF ALL WE DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY A SIMILAR RULE TO THE ENTIRE BUREAUCRACY. WE PASSED THAT YESTERDAY. IT’S CALLED THE REINS ACT. BUT WITH REGARD TO SPECIFICALLY POINTING OUT AGENCY BY AGENCY, A SIMILAR AMENDMENT PASSED EARLIER THIS YEAR TO THE CLEAN WATER BILL, A CLEAN WATER ACT, THAT HAS BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND I CERTAINLY WOULD HOPE THAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD AS WELL. FINALLY TO THE CONCERN ABOUT EXPENSE, I CAN’T IMAGINE WHAT’S MORE EXPENSIVE THAN PUTTING AMERICANS OUT OF WORK. I CAN’T THINK OF WHAT’S MORE EXPENSIVE THAN ASKING THE AMERICAN FARMERS TO COME UP WITH MORE CASH AND MORE EXPENSES BECAUSE OF BUREAUCRATS’ NEW RULES IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AND FINALLY, THIS DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE THE AGENCY FROM DOING ANYTHING. IT JUST REQUIRES THE AGENCY TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THE IMPACT ON JOBS. AND THAT TO BE KNOWN BY THE FARMERS, THE STATES, CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION, AND
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CERTAINLY THE BUREAUCRATS OF THE E.P.A. WITH THAT I YIELD A MINUTE TO MY FRIEND FROM COLORADO, MR. GARDNER. I THANK THE
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AMENDMENT. GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS FOR THIS IT’S IRONIC THE OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT CHARACTERIZES THE AMENDMENT AS A BURDEN. HOWEVER THE BURDEN BEING PLACED I WOULD SUGGEST IF IT’S A BURDEN AT ALL IS ON THE E.P.A. THE E.P.A. WHO ACTUALLY HAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS IMPACTING JOBS BEFORE
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HOW ABOUT THAT? THE REGULATION IS PROMULGATED. WE DID SOMETHING AROUND THIS PLACE THAT TAKES THE BURDEN OFF THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND MAKES GOVERNMENT TO DO THEIR JOB TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT HURTING JOBS IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY. YOU KNOW THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY COMMON SENSE. ABSOLUTE COMMON SENSE TO LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP. TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS OF A REGULATION BEFORE YOU ISSUE IT. AND THAT’S WHY I SUPPORT THIS HOUSE AMENDMENT. THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.
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MR. CHAIRMAN, HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE?
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THE GENTLEMAN HAS TWO MINUTES REMAINING. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE E.P.A. GOES THROUGH AN INCREDIBLE ANALYSIS NOW, THE COST AND BENEFITS, AND ALL THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS. IT’S APPROPRIATE. TO ADD ANOTHER REVIEW OF REGULATIONS AT E.P.A. IS TO REQUIRE PARALYSIS BY ANALYSIS AND PERHAPS THAT’S THE OBJECTIVE OF THE AMENDMENT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. HAS INDICATED HE CAN’T IMAGINE ANY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT THIS REGULATION MIGHT DO TO FARMERS. WELL, I’LL TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT’S MORE EXPENSIVE, TAX BREAKS FOR STILLAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES AND MILLIONAIRES IS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT
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.
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MORE. REQUIRING E.P.A. TO DO EVEN LET’S NOT BURDEN THE AGENCY WITH REVIEWS ONLY FOR ONE SECTOR THAT ADDS NOTHING TO THE ANALYSIS THAT THEY ALREADY ACHIEVE BEFORE THEY ADOPT ANY REGULATION. AND THESE REGULATIONS THAT ARE
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ALREADY IN EFFECT NOW ARE NOT COSTING JOBS. THIS WHOLE BILL IS SUPPOSED TO PREVENT REGULATIONS THAT ISN’T ADOPTED. WE’RE NOT LOSING JOBS BECAUSE OF THAT. WE’RE LOSING JOBS BECAUSE OUR ECONOMY IS NOT FUNCTIONING, BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE A WILLINGNESS BY THE REPUBLICANS TO STIMULATE THIS ECONOMY, GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK AND GET OUR — GET JOBS FOR THOSE WHO NEED THEM. I OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AND
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TIME. YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-317. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE
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GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS SEEK RECOGNITION? I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. CLERK. — THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-317 OFFERED BY MR. AL GREEN OF
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PURSUANT TO HOUSE TEXAS. RESOLUTION 487, THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. AL GREEN, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS. I THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.
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THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU. THERE HAS BEEN MUCH DEBATE AS TO WHETHER THIS BILL WILL CREATE OR SAVE JOBS. THERE IS MUCH SPECULATION BASED ON WHETHER THIS BILL WILL CREATE OR SAVE JOBS. WHEN YOU HAVE FEW FACTS, YOU GENERALLY SPEAKING CAN HAVE MUCH SPECULATION. THIS AMENDMENT ADDRESSES SPECULATION. THERE IS SOME SENSE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT OUR APPROVAL RATING IS LOW IN CONGRESS BECAUSE OF MUCH SPECULATION. SPECULATION CAN BREED DISTRUST. SPECULATION CAN LEAD TO FACT-FREE DEBATES, A TERM INSIDE GOOD FRIEND, EMANUEL CLEAVER, REPRESENTATIVE FROM MISSOURI, USES. FACT-FREE DEBATES. THIS AMENDMENT CAN HELP US ELIMINATE FACT-FREE DEBATES. THIS AMENDMENT CONTAINS LESS THAN 100 WORDS, AND IT ADDRESSES THE ELIMINATION OF FACT-FREE DEBATES. NOT LATER THAN 180 DAYS AFTER THE DATE OF ENACTMENT OF THIS ACT THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY SHALL TRANSMIT TO CONGRESS A REPORT ESTIMATING THE INCREASED OR DECREASED IN THE NUMBER OF JOBS IN THE UNITED STATES THAT WILL OCCUR AS A RESULT OF THE ENACTMENT OF THIS ACT. THIS AMENDMENT ELIMINATES FACT-FREE DEBATES AND SPECULATION. SO IF YOU REALLY WANT TO ELIMINATE FACT-FREE DEBATES AND SPECULATION, THEN YOU SHOULD SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL REALLY DOES CREATE OR SAVE JOBS, THEN YOU SHOULD SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. IF YOU BELIEVE THAT CARLISLE IS RIGHT, THAT NO LIFE CAN LIVE FOREVER, AND THIS ELIMINATES MALL ACE AFORETHOUGHT, THEN YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR THIS AMENDMENT. IF YOU BELIEVE THAT BRYANT IS RIGHT, THAT TRUTH CRUSHED IS RISE GIVE, THEN VOTE FOR THIS AMENDMENT. IF YOU BELIEVE THAT FACT-FREE DEBATES OUGHT TO BE ELIMINATED, YOU ARE TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME IS RESERVED. DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO SEEK TIME IN
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I DO. OPPOSITION? THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. I UNDERSTAND THE CONFUSION ABOUT JOBS AND THE E.P.A. I THINK THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF CONFUSION WHEN IT COMES TO WHETHER OR NOT THE E.P.A. IS CONSIDERING JOBS IN THEIR ANALYSIS. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER. THROUGH THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE HELD A NUMBER OF HEARINGS ON THE EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT SAYS, HEY, YOU NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF JOBS WHEN REGULATION IS PROMULGATED. WE HAD TESTIMONY FROM PAIR YUSS OFFICIALS AT THE E.P.A. WHETHER OR NOT THEY LOOK AT — VARIOUS OFFICIALS AT THE E.P.A. WHETHER OR NOT THEY LOOK AT JOBS. THERE IS CONCERN WHETHER OR NOT THEY CARE ABOUT JOBS. THE PROBLEM IS WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE JOBS BEFORE THE REGULATION IS ISSUED. THAT’S THE AMENDMENT WE PASSED BY MR. SCHOCK. ADDRESSING JOBS CLEARLY IS NOT THE AUTHORITY OR THE — EXCUSE ME — THE EXPERTISE OF THE E.P.A. IN FACT, JUST ASK ASSISTANT ADMINISTER MATTHEW STANISLAS,
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JOBS. THEY DIDN’T TAKE A LOOK AT 30 SECONDS IN HIS STATEMENT BEFORE HE SAID THEY DID TAKE A LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON JOBS. TO THE EXTENT THAT E.P.A. DOES INCLUDE THE JOBS IMPACT, IT HAS BEEN WIDELY CRITICIZED FOR MAKING FAR-FETCHED CLAIMS THAT REGULATIONS CREATE JOBS. WE HAD A HEARING WITH GINA MCCARTHY WHO TESTIFIED THAT FOR EVERY REGULATION, $1 MILLION IN REGULATIONS IT CREATES 1.5 JOBS. JOBS FOR EVERY $1 MILLION IN COST OF REGULATIONS. THAT’S THEIR IDEA OF A JOB-CREATING IDEA. WE DON’T NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON A STUDY TO KNOW THAT AVOIDING OVERREGULATION WILL BENEFIT THE ECONOMY. AVOIDING OVERREGULATION WILL BENEFIT THE ECONOMY. REGULATIONS, 1.5 JOBS FOR EVERY $1 MILLION, THAT’S THE KIND OF MATH THAT MY CONSTITUENTS, MANY CONSTITUENTS ACROSS THIS
1635
00:47:27,000 –>00:47:26,999
COUNTRY SIMPLY DON’T UNDERSTAND. I RESERVE MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN
1639
00:47:31,000 –>00:47:30,999
RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS. HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? THE GENTLEMAN HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. IT IS AN OPINION WELL STATED AND I APPRECIATE THE OPINION WELL STATED. HOWEVER, THE BEST WAY TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER OR NOT JOBS ARE BEING CREATED OR ELIMINATED IS TO UTILIZE IMPURECAL EVIDENCE DEVELOPED AFTER — COMBURECAL EVIDENCE DEVELOPED AFTER THE — IMPERICAL EVIDENCE DEVELOPED AFTER THE FACT RATHER THAN BEFORE. IF YOU BELIEVE, AND I BELIEVE YOUR HEARTS ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE, IF YOU BELIEVE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISPEL ANY MYTHS, TO DISPEL ANY SPECULATION, THEN LET’S HAVE A STUDY DONE AFTER THE BILL HAS PASSED AND AFTER THERE HAS BEEN SOME TIME FOR IMPLEMENTATION. I’M WILLING TO EXTEND THE TIME.
1668
00:48:22,000 –>00:48:21,999
I’M WILLING TO HAVE FWOO DO THE STUDY. — G.A.O. TO DO THE STUDY. MY HEART’S IN THE RIGHT PLACE. I WANT US TO HAVE PROOF POSITIVE THAT THIS BILL DOES OR DOES NOT ELIMINATE JOBS. I WANT TO ELIMINATE THE SPECULATION, AND I BELIEVE I HAVE ENOUGH TIME LEFT TO YIELD SOME TO MY FRIEND — HOW MUCH DO I HAVE LEFT, MR. SPEAKER? THE GENTLEMAN HAS 1 1/2 MINUTES. I WOULD ENGAGE IN A COLLOQUY WITH MY FRIEND. I WOULD YIELD TO YOU TO — THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME AND CONSIDERATION. AGAIN, WE DID ADOPT AN AMENDMENT THAT DOES TAKE A LOOK AT THE REGULATION BEFORE IT’S OFFERED. IF I MAY RECLAIM
1693
00:48:59,000 –>00:48:58,999
BEFORE. TIME. YOU SEE, COMBURECAL EVIDENCE UNDER THE SCIENTIFIC — IMPERICAL EVIDENCE UNDER THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD IS BEST REQUIRED AFTER YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE. YOU UTILIZE SPECULATION TO COME TO A CONCLUSION AND THEN CALL THAT A FACT. THIS WOULD ELIMINATE SPECULATION. I WOULD YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. I KNOW IF I STUB MY TOE IT WILL HURT BEFORE I DO IT. WE OUGHT TO CHECK OUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL COST JOBS BEFORE I DO IT. RECLAIMING MY TIME. THE QUESTION IS WILL YOU’LL ACTUALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HURT YOUR TOE, AS YOU PUT IT. THERE IS NO NEED TO AVOID THINGS THAT DON’T EXIST. LET US GET THE ACTUAL IMPERICAL, RAW EVIDENCE TO USE THAT IN ORDER TO DRAW OUR CONCLUSIONS ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS BILL CREATES OR SAVE JOBS. THE GROUPS IN COLORADO KNOW THIS ISSUE THE BEST, THE FARMERS AND RANCHERS WHO KNOW THIS THE BEST. EXCUSE ME. RECLAIMING MY TIME. BECAUSE SUPPORTING SOMETHING IS NOT IMPERICAL EVIDENCE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL DO A CERTAIN THING.
1735
00:50:04,000 –>00:50:03,999
I RESPECT ALL WHO IS SUPPORTING IT. BY THE WAY, I DON’T DISRESPECT
1738
00:50:07,000 –>00:50:06,999
I BELIEVE YOUR HEART’S IN THE YOU. RIGHT PLACE. WHAT I’M TRYING TO GET YOU TO SEE IS IF YOU UTILIZE THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD YOU WILL GET YOUR IMPERICAL EVIDENCE AFTER YOU HAVE GIVEN THIS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ENACTED.
1747
00:50:20,000 –>00:50:19,999
THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU.
1750
00:50:22,000 –>00:50:21,999
THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO. I’D LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THE LIST WITH THE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT OF THOSE IN MY DISTRICT THAT BELIEVE THIS WILL INDEED COST JOBS. WE ADOPTED AN AMENDMENT THAT SAYS, HEY, LET’S LOOK AT IT BEFORE IT GOS INTO EFFECT. THE — GOES INTO EFFECT. THE COLORADO ASSOCIATION OF WHEAT GROWERS, THE COLORADO CATTLE ASSOCIATION, THE COLORADO LAMB COUNCIL, THE COLORADO LIVESTOCK ASSOCIATION, THE COLORADO SHEEP AND WOOL AUTHORITY, THE COLORADO WOOL GROWERS AUTHORITY AND THE COLORADO FARM BURE E. THEY WILL WORK EACH AND EVERY DAY UNDER THIS REGULATION. THE E.P.A. SAYS, HEY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED —
1776
00:51:07,000 –>00:51:06,999
WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD? I WILL YIELD. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE WORLD IS LARGER THAN COLORADO. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CONCERNS FROM BOSTON. THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS IN HOUSTON.
1786
00:51:21,000 –>00:51:20,999
ANGELES. THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS IN LOS BUT I CAN TELL YOU IN RURAL COLORADO, IN RURAL AMERICA THERE ARE GRAVE CONCERNS THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THIS BODY THAT THINK THEIR CONCERNS OVER FARM DUST ARE NOTHING MORE THAN CONCERNS OVER PIXIE DUST. WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD? I THINK WE CAN GO ON VOTING FOR THIS. IF YOU HAVE TIME. WE HAVE A ROCK CRUSHING COMPANY IN MY DISTRICT.
1802
00:51:45,000 –>00:51:44,999
IT YIELDS DUST, PARTICULATE MATTER.
1804
00:51:47,000 –>00:51:46,999
CONCERN TO RURAL PEOPLE AS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A WELL.
1807
00:51:50,000 –>00:51:49,999
RECLAIMING MY TIME. AND THE GENTLEMAN WILL —
1810
00:51:54,000 –>00:51:53,999
RECLAIMING MY TIME. AND THE GENTLEMAN WILL KNOW THAT THEY’LL ENFORCE THEIR OWN DUST REGULATIONS ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN LOCAL CONDITIONS.
1816
00:52:01,000 –>00:52:00,999
AMENDMENT. I WILL JUST OPPOSE THIS I BELIEVE WE WILL GET ON TO THE UNDERLYING BILL AND ADOPT THE UNDERLYING BILL SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD CREATING JOBS, MAKING SURE WE ARE NOT KILLING JOBS AND DO WHAT’S RIGHT FOR THIS
1824
00:52:12,000 –>00:52:11,999
COUNTRY WHEN IT COMES TO THE ECONOMY. I YIELD BACK. THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME
1828
00:52:15,000 –>00:52:14,999
HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS.
1832
00:52:19,000 –>00:52:18,999
THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. MR. CHAIRMAN, I REQUEST A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS WILL BE POSTPONED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, PROCEEDINGS WILL NOW RESUME ON THOSE AMENDMENTS PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-317 ON WHICH
1848
00:52:39,000 –>00:52:38,999
FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER — AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 BY MR. RUSH OF ILLINOIS, AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 OFFERED BY MRS. CHRISTENSEN OF THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, AMENDMENT NUMBER 4 BY MR. MARKEY OF MASSACHUSETTS, 5 BY MR. WAXMAN OF CALIFORNIA. AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 BY MR. GREEN OF TEXAS. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST OF A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-317 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. WISH, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEED — RUSH, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE.
1870
00:53:18,000 –>00:53:17,999
AMENDMENT. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-317
1874
00:53:21,000 –>00:53:20,999
ILLINOIS. OFFERED BY MR. RUSH OF A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A 15-MINUTE VOTE.
1887
00:53:40,000 –>00:53:39,999
THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE
1894
00:53:46,000 –>00:53:45,999
COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE REPRESENTATIVES.]
1898
01:15:55,000 –>01:15:54,999
ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 150. THE NAYS ARE 255. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED.

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