INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI‘I: Honolulu Charter Amendment 7 / State House District 34
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INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI‘I: Honolulu Charter Amendment 7 / State House District 34


SHOULD THE HONOLULU CITY &
COUNTY GOVERNMENT EXPAND TO INCLUDE A NEW AGENCY THAT
DEALS WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, SUSTAINABILITY AND
RESILIENCY? TONIGHT, CHARYL SOON FROM THE
CHARTER COMMISSION AND ANDREW ROTHSTEIN FORMER CHAIR OF THE
DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD WILL GIVE YOU REASONS TO BE
FOR OR AGAINST CHARTER AMENDMENT 7. AND IT’S THE 2014 REMATCH FOR
STATE HOUSE DISTRICT 34. TWO TERM DEMOCRAT GREGG
TAKAYAMA FACES REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER JACI AGUSTIN. ALTHOUGH TAKAYAMA’S POSTED A
DECISIVE WIN TWO YEARS AGO, NATIONALLY, REPUBLICANS
THINK THIS IS THE RACE TO WATCH. TAKAYAMA HAS SAID HE THINKS
AGUSTIN’S REPUBLICAN AGENDA IS OUT OF STEP WITH OUR PEARL
CITY CONSTITUENCY. GET YOUR QUESTIONS AND
COMMENTS READY. THIS LIVE BROADCAST OF
INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII STARTS NOW.>>Daryl: ALOHA WELL WELCOME
TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII. I’M DARYL HUFF FROM HAWAII
NEWS NOW. JOINED BY THE CANDIDATES FOR
STATE HOUSE DISTRICT 4. GREGG TAKAYAMA WILL MEET
REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER JACI AGUSTIN IN THIS RACE TO
REPRESENT THE DISTRICT THAT INCLUDES PEARL CITY, WAIMALU
AND PACIFIC PALISADES. THEN WE’LL FEATURE ONE OF THE
20 HONOLULU CHARTER AMENDMENTS, OAHU VOTERS ARE
BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER THIS ELECTION YEAR. AMENDMENT 7 SEEKS TO APPROVAL
TO CREATE NEW AGENCY DEDICATED TO CLIMATE CHANGE,
SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY. WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR
PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT’S SHOW. YOU CAN E-MAIL.>>CALL OUR TWEET YOUR
QUESTIONS. YOU’LL FIND A LIVESTREAM OF
THIS PROGRAM AT PBS HAWAI’I.ORG. DON’T FORGET TO CALL IN YOUR
QUESTIONS EARLY FOR THE CANDIDATES FROM STATE HOUSE
DISTRICT 34 SINCE IT WILL BE FEATURED ONLY DURING THE
FIRST HALF OF THE PROGRAM. PRIOR TO TONIGHT’S SHOW,
THERE WAS A RANDOM DRAWING THAT DETERMINED THE SEATING
ORDER OF THE CANDIDATES. JACI AGUSTIN IS RUNNING AS A
REPUBLICAN FOR HOUSE SEAT 34. POSITION FOR WHICH SHE ALSO
RAN IN 2014. PRIOR TO THIS ELECTION,
MS. AGUSTIN WAS A PROGRAM,
MRS. AGUSTIN WAS A PROGRAM
COORDINATOR FOR THE YMCA OF HONOLULU LEGISLATIVE LIASON. BOARD OF DIRECTORS, FORMER
ADVOCATE AND FORMER MISS HAWAI’I CROWNED 2013. REPRESENTATIVE GREGG
TAKAYAMA DEMOCRAT SINCE 2014. REPRESENTATIVE TAKAYAMA
SPENT SIX YEARS AS SPOKESMAN FOR U.H. MANOA. ALSO A
TELEVISION NEWS REPORTER FOR KHON. PRESS SECRETARY FOR DANIEL
INOUYE AND COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR THEN LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR BEN CAYETANO. BEFORE WE GET TO THE
CANDIDATES, LET’S TAKE LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC PROFILE OF
HOUSE DISTRICT 34 ON OAHU.>>HAWAI’I STATE HOUSE
DISTRICT 34 REPRESENTS 26,441 RESIDENTS. OF PEARL CITY, WAIMALU AND
PACIFIC PALISADES. THE MEDIAN AGE IS 43.6 YEARS. ETHNIC BREAK OUTIS 28%
CAUCASIAN, 80% ASIAN AND 18% HAWAIIAN OR OTHER PACIFIC
ISLANDER. 6500 FAMILIES LIVING IN THE
DISTRICT. THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME
IS $86,902. MORE THAN 93% OF ALL RESIDENTS
GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND 27% HAVE A BACHELOR’S
DEGREE. 16% OF ALL RESIDENTS WERE BORN
OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES. 23% SPEAK A LANGUAGE OTHER
THAN ENGLISH. MEDIAN VALUE OF OWNER
OCCUPIED HOUSING $553,450 AND RENTAL IS $1,721.>>FIRST OF ALL, IT’S
DIFFICULT TO RUN FOR OFFICE ANYWAY. RUNNING AS A REPUBLICAN IN
HAWAI’I MUST BE REAL CHALLENGE. WHAT IS IT ABOUT YOURSELF,
BACKGROUND, THAT MADE YOU WANT TO TAKE ON THIS KIND OF
CHALLENGE?>>I REALLY LOVE MY COMMUNITY
AND ENJOY WORKING FOR EVERYONE AROUND ME. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A
FIVE-YEAR-OLD SON WHO IS GOING TO BE SIX TOMORROW. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO HIM. ULTIMATELY IT CAME DOWN
SERVING MY COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT’S PUBLIC
SCHOOL SYSTEM WE ARE GOES TO PUBLIC SCHOOL IS SOMEWHERE
THAT I’M PROUD TO SEND HIM. SOMEWHERE THAT PARENT ACROSS
HAWAI’I WILL BE ABLE TO FEEL THEIR CHILDREN ARE SAFE,
HEALTHY IN THIS ENVIRONMENT AND GETTING THE THINGS THAT
THEY NEED. I’M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE
COST OF LIVING. 20, 30 YEARS AGO, WILL MY SON
BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN HAWAI’I? ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
HIS GRANDPARENTS WILL BE WELL TAKEN CARE OF IN THE FUTURE. AND THAT REPUBLICAN OR
DEMOCRAT, WE HAVE ALL OF THESE CONCERNS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR
FAMILY AND COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE IN HARD WORK. THAT’S WHY I’M OUT THERE EVERY
DAY, WORKING FOR THE FAMILIES IN HAWAI’I.
>>Daryl: GREGG TAKAYAMA REPRESENTATIVE FOR FOUR
YEARS. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM YOUR
COMMUNITY AS TO WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST CONCERNS IN YOUR
DISTRICT?>>TRUE. TO START WITH, LITTLE
INTRODUCTION ABOUT PEARL CITY, THAT PRECEDED THE
PROGRAM DIDN’T MENTION ONE IMPORTANT FACT ABOUT OUR
DISTRICT. THAT’S THE FACT THAT OUR
PERCENTAGE OF SENIOR CITIZENS IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE
STATE. HIGHEST PERCENTAGE SENIORS
OVER THE AGE OF 60 THROUGHOUT THE STATE IS MAYBE 18%. PEARL CITY, IT’S 24%. SO SIGNIFICANT LARGER NUMBER
OF SENIORS LIVE IN PEARL CITY THAN IN MOST OTHER DISTRICTS. AS A RESULT, ONE OF THE
CHALLENGES I THINK FOR OUR DISTRICT IS TO ENABLE THESE
SENIORS OFTENTIMES FRAIL, TO BE ABLE TO LIVE AT HOME,
INDEPENDENTLY. THEY DON’T WANT TO GO INTO A
NURSING HOME. THOSE WHO ARE FRAIL, STATE HAS
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE THROUGH THEM
THROUGH PROGRAM CALLED KUPUNA CARE, DELIVERED MEAL,
EMERGENCY TRANSPORTATION AND REFERRAL SERVICES TO OTHER
AGENCIES. THAT’S AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM
THAT I’VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS. AND THEN ATTEMPT TO MEET THE
NEEDS OF SENIORS AND NUMBER THAT’S GOING TO BE GROWING NOT
ONLY IN PEARL CITY, BUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE.>>Daryl: WHAT KIND OF THINGS
ARE LACK NOW FOR SERVICES?>>I WOULD AGREE WITH
RECOMMEND TAKAYAMA. THAT IS ONE OF THE TOP ISSUES
IN THIS OUR DISTRICT. ALMOST ONE-THIRD OF THE
POPULATION IS 62 YEARS AND OLDER. YES, THERE ARE THINGS BEING
DONE LIKE KUPUNA CARE. THOSE SERVICES ARE NOT
REACHING THE PEOPLE BECAUSE I’VE BEEN GOING DOOR-TO-DOOR
SINCE I RAN IN 2014. I HAVEN’T STOPPED. INVITED INTO THE HOMES OF
THESE SENIORS. I’M SEEING THAT THAT
INFORMATION IS NOT GETTING TO THEM. WE CAN PASS ALL OF THIS
LEGISLATION, PROCEDURES AND POLICIES. IF IT’S NOT GETTING TO THE
PEOPLE, WHAT’S IT FOR? SO I ADVOCATE HAVING MORE
HANDS ON APPROACH. TRANSITIONING PEOPLE INTO
KNOWING WHAT’S AVAILABLE TO THEM BEFORE IT BECOMES A
CRISIS, BEFORE THEY BECOME NEEDING THAT IN-HOME CARE. FOR EXAMPLE, IN JUNE, THE
GOVERNOR APPROPRIATED $1.7 MILLION TO ADRC, AGING
DISABILITY RESOURCE CENTER. RIGHT NOW, THAT’S MORE OF A ON
LINE TYPE OF THING. PHONE CALLS. WHAT I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR IS
TO HAVE A BRICK AND MORTAR BUILDING, ADRC, RESOURCE
CENTER, IN OUR DISTRICT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ONE OF THE
HIGHEST AGE POPULATIONS IN ALL OF HAWAI’I.
SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT I’M WORKING
TOWARDS.>>ONE OF THE REASONS THAT
KUPUNA CARE DOESN’T REACH AS MANY SENIORS AS IT SHOULD IS
BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE’VE APPROPRIATED HAS
BEEN FAR LESS THAN SUFFICIENT. WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO DOUBLE THE
AMOUNT IN MY FOUR YEARS IN THE STATE HOUSE, DOUBLE THE
AMOUNT THAT’S BEEN APPROPRIATED FOR KUPUNA CARE
TO ABOUT 8 TO 9 MILLION. STILL TOUCHES JUST A FRACTION
OF THOSE WHO NEED IT. SO THAT’S WHY WE NEED TO DO
MORE. THERE’S UNFINISHED BUSINESS
IN TERMS OF TAKING CARE OF FAMILY CAREGIVERS. VERY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE
PASSED A LAW THIS YEAR TO HELP FAMILY CARE GIVERS. SIGNIFICANTLY IMPORTANT. UNDER UNFINISHED BUSINESS,
PAID FAMILY LEAVE, LIKE SOME FORM OF LONGTERM CARE
INSURANCE. THE BILL THAT YOU MENTIONED
THAT’S GOVERNOR SIGNED WAS ACTUALLY INTRODUCED BY ME. PROVIDES FUNDS FOR ADRC’S
WHICH ARE ACTUALLY REFERRAL SERVICES AND THE ONE THING
ABOUT ADRC’S, AND THESE ARE AGING AN DISABILITY RESOURCE
CENTERS, THEY DON’T REALLY HAVE TO BE A PHYSICAL OFFICE
OR BUILDING. VERY OFTENTIMES, THOSE WHO
MOST NEED SERVICES DON’T HAVE THE KIND OF MOBILITY THAT
ENABLES THEM TO GET INTO TOWN. THAT’S WHY THEY NEED TO BE
ACCESSIBLE BY PHONE, COMPUTER AND OUTREACH SERVICE.>>Daryl: I WANT TO MAKE SURE
WE HONOR OUR VIEWERS WHEN THEY COME UP WITH A QUESTION. THIS IS RIGHT ON THE POINT OF
WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT CAN BOTH CANDIDATES DO TO
MAKE GOVERNMENT MORE ACCESSIBLE TO SENIOR
CITIZENS? ON POINT OF THE ADRC’S, AS I
UNDERSTAND IT, THERE WAS A REAL DISCONNECT GOING ON
BETWEEN THE STATE AND CITY GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF
DELIVERING THE SERVICES. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS
TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT, FOR EXAMPLE?>>ACTUALLY, THE HAWAI’I
COMMUNITY FOUNDATION DID A STUDY AND THEY USED THE WORD
FRAGMENTED. DISCONNECTED. AND THERE’S A LARGE GAP IN THE
SERVICE REACHING AS I HAD JUST EXPLAINED. AND A LOT OF THE SENIORS WHEN
I GO DOOR-TO-DOOR, DON’T WANT TO USE A COMPUTER. THEY DON’T WANT A PHONE CALL. THEY WANT TO GO AND VISIT
SOMEBODY. THEY DON’T WANT TO GO TO TOWN. THAT’S WHY I WOULD ADVOCATE
FOR ONE OF THE ADRCs FOR TO BE IN OUR DISTRICT. THE WAY TO BRING GOVERNMENT TO
OUR COMMUNITY. HAVE MY OFFICE IN DISTRICT
DURING NONLEGISLATIVE TIME PERIOD ONCE A WEEK SO THAT OUR
SENIORS, THEY DON’T HAVE TO FIGHT TRAFFIC. THEY DON’T HAVE GO FIND
PARKING. THEY DON’T HAVE TO GO WANDER
AROUND THE CAPITOL TO HAVE A FACE-TO-FACE MEETING WITH
ME LIKE WHAT I’VE BEEN HAVING WITH THEM AT THE DOOR.>>OUTREACH TO CITIZENS,
ALREADY HAVE A DISTRICT OFFICE. 1639HOOLANA STREET. WHICH IS MY PHONE. NUMBER IS LISTED IN THE
DIRECTLY. CELL PHONE NUMBER PRINTED ON
ALL OF MY BUSINESS CARDS AND EVERY DISTRICT THAT’S
AVAILABLE. SO WHEN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT
YOU ARE RESPONSIVE TO THEIR CALLS AND NEEDS AND EFFECTIVE
IN GETTING THINGS DONE, THEY WILL CALL YOU. THEY WILL APPROACH YOU AND
LONG’S AND FOODLAND AND CALL YOU UP ON THE PHONE. WE AVERAGE ABOUT 3 TO 4 CALLS
FOR ASSISTANCE EVERY WEEK.>>Daryl: YOU’RE BOTH KIND OF
SAYING THE SAME THING IN A SENSE. IF IT TAKES CALLING YOUR LOCAL
LEGISLATOR GET A GOVERNMENT SERVICE, ISN’T THAT A
PROBLEM?>>VERY OFTENTIMES PEOPLE
DON’T KNOW WHERE TO GO. THAT’S ONE OF THE IDEAS BEHIND
ADRC’S. WHICH ARE INCIDENTALLY SET UP
IN EACH COUNTY. HONOLULU, OAHU IS THE LAST
ADRC TO BE SET UP. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE
LEARNED FROM VERY GOOD ADRC’S THAT ARE EXISTING ON MAUI AND
KAUAI AND THE BIG ISLAND, WHAT WE NEED DO IS LEARN FROM THE
EXPERIENCES OF THE OTHER COUNTIES BECAUSE I AGREE THAT
THERE ARE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE HONOLULU ADRC. AND ONE OF THE CALLS THAT’S
LEGISLATURE DID IS TO CALL FOR A STUDY AND ANALYSIS OF THE
HONOLULU ADRC TO SEE HOW IT COULD BE MADE MORE RESPONSIVE
AND EFFECTIVE. SO WE’RE LOOKING FORWARD TO
ACTING ON THAT. WHEN THE LEGISLATURE COMES
BACK IN JANUARY.>>Daryl: LET ME, ONE MORE
QUESTION ON SENIORS. ACTUALLY GETTING QUITE A FEW
QUESTIONS. THIS WILL BE FUN. HOW WOULD THE CANDIDATES USE
TECHNOLOGY TO GET SENIORS TO CONNECT TO THE SERVICES? YOU MENTIONED MAYBE THEY
DON’T WANT TO USE THE COMPUTER. IS THAT A CARROT AND THE STICK
KIND OF THING? HOW WOULD THEY GET SENIORS
CONNECTED TO THE SERVICE?>>YES, STILL MAKE PHONE
CALLS. STILL GO ON THE COMPUTER. I’M ONE OF THE FIRST
CANDIDATES TO HAVE AN ACTUAL APP ON IPHONE OR ANDROID. PEOPLE CAN CHAT WITH ME. FIND OUT DIFFERENT
INFORMATION. I PUSH OUT
INFORMATION ABOUT COMMUNITY EVENTS, ABOUT SENIORS. THAT’S A NEW KIND OF
TECHNOLOGY. AS YOU SAID, SENIORS AS THEY
GROW IT LIKE TECHNOLOGY, THAT’S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
THEY REALLY APPRECIATE. I ALSO THINK THAT A LOT OF
PEOPLE ARE TURNING TOWARD FACEBOOK. I CREATED AIEA PEARL CITY
TRAFFIC ALERT PAGE FOR OUR AREA. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ON THERE. I’M SURE SOME OF THEM ARE
SENIORS. MAKING SURE WE’RE USING
TECHNOLOGY IT IN A WAY THEY CAN UNDERSTAND AND USEFUL
INFORMATION. NOT JUST STATIC STUFF THAT’S
BEING THROWN OUT THERE.>>Daryl: ONE OF THE THINGS
ABOUT SENIORS IS THAT AS THEY AGE, IN PLACE, IN HOME, THEY
ARE VERY OFTENTIMES DISCONNECTED FROM THE REST OF
THE COMMUNITY. EITHER BECAUSE THEY LACK
TRANSPORTATION RESOURCES, GIVEN UP DRIVER’S LICENSE AND
NEED HELP ENGAGING WITH OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT’S WHY ONE OF THE
IMPORTANT FACETS OF THE LEGISLATURE IN TERMS OF
SENIOR PROGRAMS IS TO IMPROVE THE NUMBER OF HEALTHY AGING
PROGRAMS WE HAVE. ENABLE THEM TO GO TO REC
CENTER OR CHURCH TO ENGAGE IN HEALTHY ACTIVITIES THAT
PROMOTES THEIR SOCIAL WELL-BEING. THAT’S A FORM OF POSITIVE
WELL-BEING FOR MANY SENIORS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.>>Daryl: GOING BACK TO THAT
QUESTION. IS IT SOMETHING THAT ,THERE’S
SO MUCH RESOURCE AVAILABLE IF YOU USE THE TECHNOLOGY.>>I WOULD AGREE.>>Daryl: IDEA OF MAYBE
TRAINING, GOING OUT AND TRAINING SENIORS IN THE
TECHNOLOGY, DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENTENCE.>>IT DOES. TO SOME EXTENT. I THINK WE HAVE TO REALIZE
THAT IN TERMS OF RESOURCES REACHING THE SENIORS, AS I
SAID EARLIER, WE ARE NOT AT THE POINT WHERE WE’VE PROVIDE
ENOUGH RESOURCES FOR THEM. THE HEALTHY AGING PROGRAM, I
TALKED ABOUT, HAS FAR LESS FUNDING THAN IT SHOULD. THE KUPUNA CARE PROGRAM IS
UNDERFUNDED AS WELL. PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THE
NUMBER OF SENIORS IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY OVER THE NEXT
FEW YEARS. WE HAVEN’T CAUGHT UP.>>Daryl: IF YOU ACTUALLY, IF
THEY ALL ACCESSED SERVICES YOU WOULD RUN OUT OF MONEY?>>EXACTLY. THAT’S WHY WE NEED TO IMPROVE
TOOLS LIKE PROVIDING MORE HELP FOR FAMILY CAREGIVERS,
PAID FAMILY LEAVE IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO CONSIDER.>>Daryl: THIS QUESTIONER JUST
ASKED THAT QUESTION. YOU ANSWERED IT. I WANT TO MOVE TON TRAFFIC. GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON
TRAFFIC. DOES EITHER CANDIDATE HAVE A
PLAN FOR TRAFFIC IN THE PEARL CITY AREA PARTICULARLY IN THE
MORNING AND EVENING PEAK HOURS? CHERYL FROM WAIMALU. HAVE A PLAN TO ALLEVIATE
TRAFFIC CONGESTION. THAT SOUNDS VERY FAMILIAR. SAME PERSON TWICE. IF YOU PROPOSED INCREASE IN
VEHICLE FUND WEIGHT TAXES HOW WOULD WILL YOU FUND YOUR NEW
HIGHWAY PROJECTS? THREE TRAFFIC QUESTIONS. JACI AGUSTIN YOU MENTIONED
TRAFFIC BEFORE.>>YES.>>Daryl: WHAT DO YOU THINK IS
THE SOLUTION THERE? YOU’VE GOT RAIL GOING THROUGH
RIGHT NOW. MUST BE A NIGHTMARE.>>BESIDES OUR AGING
POPULATION TRAFFIC ONE OF THE TOP THREE ISSUES IN OUR
DISTRICT. I’VE BEEN LOOKING FOR
DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS FOR A WHILE NOW.
AND ONE SIMPLE ONE IS TO CREATE BUS BAY AS LONG OUR
MOANALUA AND KAMEHAMEHA HIGHWAY BECAUSE THE BUSSES
STOP. THEY STOP MAIN FLOW OF TRAFFIC
AND THEN THE TRAFFIC GETS BACK UP. GET THE BUSSES OFF THE MAIN
FLOW, FOLKS CAN KEEP GOING. ANOTHER MAJOR CONSIDERATION
THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORWARD TO D.O.T. IS TO HAVE
ON AND OFF RAMP AT KAONOHI. THAT’S BEFORE OUR DISTRICT. AS WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF
PEOPLE, THEY EITHER TAKE THE OFF RAMP AT KAMEHAMEHA OR GO
DOWN TO THE PEARL CITY EXCHANGE. THERE’S NO ON AND OFF RAMP
BETWEEN THOSE TWO. WITH THE AIEA, LIVE WORK AND
PLAY AT SWAP MEET. INCREASE TRAFFIC. NEED TO THINK ABOUT GETTING
PEOPLE ON AND OFF, ONCE THEY GET OFF IN THE PEARL RIDGE,
NEW DEVELOPMENT, GET THROUGH TO OUR DISTRICT QUICKER AND
EASIER. ALLEVIATE MORE TRAFFIC ALL
THE WAY TO THE WEST SIDE.>>ANOTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT
CONSTRUCTING A WHOLE NEW OFF RAMP WOULD BE HOW TO PAY FOR
IT. ONE OF THE ISSUES BEFORE THE
LEGISLATURE LAST YEAR WAS THE FACT THAT THE STATE D.O.T. CAME TO THE LEGISLATURE TO ASK
FOR FUNDS TO ROW MEN ISSUE THE HIGHWAY-REPLENISH THE MY
HIGHWAY FUND WHICH IS RUNNING OUT OF MONEY. UNLESS WE TAKE STEPS TO
REPLENISH THE HIGHWAY FUND TO SOME DEGREE, NOT ENOUGH MONEY
TO CONSTRUCT PROJECTS LIKE THAT. ADMINISTRATION ASKED TO RAISE
THE GASOLINE TAX. THE WEIGHT TAX, AND THE
REGISTRATION FEE WHICH I OPPOSED. I THINK IT WAS TOO MUCH ALL AT
ONCE. BUT I THINK AT SOME POINT,
THERE HAS TO BE SOME REPLENISHMENT. IN A STAGGERED FORM OF
INCREASE MIGHT BE OKAY. PERHAPS DO WHAT WE DID PAST
SESSION, OUT OF THE STATE GENERAL FUNDS, WE HAVE
SURPLUS OF ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS, WE ADD $36 MILLION
STRAIGHT INTO THE HIGHWAY FUND TO PROVIDE FOR
MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS TO HIGHWAYS.>>Daryl: HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT
THE TAX INCREASES PROPOSED?>>I’M NOT IN SUPPORT OF TAX
INCREASES. GAS INCREASE REGRESSIVE TAX. WE TALK ABOUT MONEY. THERE IS FEDERAL FUNDS STILL
OUT THERE THAT HAVEN’T BEEN SPENT. JUST AT A TOWN HALL MEETING
AND IT WAS 540 MILLION THAT IS AVAILABLE. ANOTHER 100 MILLION EVERY
YEAR THAT COMES IN. SO WHY HAVEN’T WE TAKEN
ADVANTAGE OF THAT YET? I KNOW THAT WE START USING
THAT MONEY, THEN MAYBE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL SEE
THAT WE’LL BE ABLE TO USE THAT. I KNOW PEOPLE CALL IT THE
PIPELINE. WE NEED TO START CONSIDERING
THOSE FUNDS AND USING THOSE TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS INSTEAD OF
RAISING GAS TAX FIRST.>>Daryl: YOUR DISTRICT IS
GOING TO BENEFIT SOMEWHAT FROM THE RAIL. GOING RIGHT THROUGH THERE. IS HAVE A NUMBER OF T.O.D.ES
SO ON. WILL BE ASKED TO EXTEND THE
SURCHARGE ON RAIL INDEFINITELY OR DO SOMETHING
LIKE THAT. STARTED WITH YOU ON THAT.>>I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT’S
CITY NEEDS TO FINISH THE RAIL PROJECT. AS YOU SAID, IT WILL COME TO
THE LEGISLATURE AS TO WHETHER WE EXTEND THE SURCHARGE FOR OR
NOT. I BELIEVE ON THE CONDITION
THAT THE CITY DO A COUPLE OF THINGS, WE PROBABLY SHOULD
EXTEND THE SURCHARGE. NUMBER ONE, I WOULD INSIST
THAT THE CITY LOOK TO FEDERAL AGENCIES TO TRY TO INCREASE
THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS WE GET FROM THE FEDS. 2, CITY HAS NOT DONE A GOOD
ENOUGH JOB OF SEEKING CONTRIBUTING FUNDS FROM
PRIVATE SOURCES. FOR EXAMPLE, ALL BEEN TO
DISNEY WORLD. DISNEY LAND. WE KNOW HOW THE MONORAIL STOPS
IN THE MIDDLE OF A HOTEL. IMAGINE THE RAIL STOPPING IN
THE MIDDLE OF A SHOPPING CENTER. CANNOT IMAGINE THAT A
SHOPPING CENTER WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE
FUNDING OF A RAIL STATION OR CONSTRUCTION OF RAIL ITSELF
IF IT WERE TO BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO YES, I DO THINK WE WILL
PROBABLY HAVE TO EXTEND THE SURCHARGE. BUT ON THE CONDITION THAT THE
CITY STEP UP ITS GAME AND SEEK MORE FUNDS FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION.>>I WOULD NOT VOTE TO
INCREASE THE SURCHARGE OR INCREASE THE G.E.T. SUNRISE. THAT’S BECAUSE, AGAIN,
REGRESSIVE TAX. THERE’S A LOT OF SENIORS IN
OUR DISTRICT. A LOT OF THEM ARE LIVING ON A
FIXED INCOME. THOSE KIND OF
TAX PUT THE BURDEN ON THEM. IT’S BEEN REPORTED THAT THE
RAIL IS GOING TO COST US $10.2 BILLION. $8.6 BILLION HAS BEEN
APPROPRIATED. ALSO BEEN TALK ABOUT 10% SKIM
THAT’S BEEN HAPPENING, IF WE CUT THAT 10% SKIM RIGHT NOW,
TAKES $360 MILLION SHORTFALL. WE NEED TO START LOOK AT
PRIVATE AREAS AROUND THE T.O.D. STATIONS TO HAVE THE
CITY PARTNER WITH THEM FOR EITHER COMPLETION OR
MAINTENANCE OF THE RAIL AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK
FOR FEDERAL MONIES BESIDES THE FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION
AGENCY. THERE’S OTHER DEPARTMENTS
THAT MIGHT LEND MONEY. THEN TOP OF THAT, WE NEED TO
LOOK FOR OTHER WAYS BECAUSE WHEN YOU START LOOKING TO TAX
THE PEOPLE, THAT’S THE EASIEST SOLUTION FOR
POLITICIANS DO. BUT IT’S THE HARDEST ON OUR
TAXPAYERS. THAT’S THE P L1)HDEST ON OUR
COMMUNITY. -HARDEST ON OUR COMMUNITY. NO, HAWAII NOT BE IN FAVOR OF
THAT. SHOULD THE HONOLULU CITY &
COUNTY GOVERNMENT EXPAND TO INCLUDE A NEW AGENCY THAT
DEALS WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, SUSTAINABILITY AND
RESILIENCY? TONIGHT, CHARYL SOON FROM THE
CHARTER COMMISSION AND ANDREW ROTHSTEIN FORMER CHAIR OF THE
DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD WILL GIVE YOU REASONS TO BE
FOR OR AGAINST CHARTER AMENDMENT 7.
AND IT’S THE 2014 REMATCH FOR STATE HOUSE DISTRICT 34.
TWO TERM DEMOCRAT GREGG TAKAYAMA FACES REPUBLICAN
CHALLENGER JACI AGUSTIN. ALTHOUGH TAKAYAMA’S POSTED A
DECISIVE WIN TWO YEARS AGO, NATIONALLY, REPUBLICANS
THINK THIS IS THE RACE TO WATCH.
TAKAYAMA HAS SAID HE THINKS AGUSTIN’S REPUBLICAN AGENDA
IS OUT OF STEP WITH OUR PEARL CITY CONSTITUENCY.
GET YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS READY.
THIS LIVE BROADCAST OF INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII STARTS
NOW.>>Daryl: ALOHA WELL WELCOME
TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII. I’M DARYL HUFF FROM HAWAII
NEWS NOW. JOINED BY THE CANDIDATES FOR
STATE HOUSE DISTRICT 4. GREGG TAKAYAMA WILL MEET
REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER JACI AGUSTIN IN THIS RACE TO
REPRESENT THE DISTRICT THAT INCLUDES PEARL CITY, WAIMALU
AND PACIFIC PALISADES. THEN WE’LL FEATURE ONE OF THE
20 HONOLULU CHARTER AMENDMENTS, OAHU VOTERS ARE
BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER THIS ELECTION YEAR.
AMENDMENT 7 SEEKS TO APPROVAL TO CREATE NEW AGENCY
DEDICATED TO CLIMATE CHANGE, SUSTAINABILITY AND
RESILIENCY. WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR
PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT’S SHOW.
YOU CAN E-MAIL.>>CALL OUR TWEET YOUR
QUESTIONS. YOU’LL FIND A LIVESTREAM OF
THIS PROGRAM AT PBS HAWAI’I.ORG.
DON’T FORGET TO CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS EARLY FOR THE
CANDIDATES FROM STATE HOUSE DISTRICT 34 SINCE IT WILL BE
FEATURED ONLY DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE PROGRAM.
PRIOR TO TONIGHT’S SHOW, THERE WAS A RANDOM DRAWING
THAT DETERMINED THE SEATING ORDER OF THE CANDIDATES.
JACI AGUSTIN IS RUNNING AS A REPUBLICAN FOR HOUSE SEAT 34.
POSITION FOR WHICH SHE ALSO RAN IN 2014.
PRIOR TO THIS ELECTION, MS. AGUSTIN WAS A PROGRAM,
MRS. AGUSTIN WAS A PROGRAM COORDINATOR FOR THE YMCA OF
HONOLULU LEGISLATIVE LIASON. BOARD OF DIRECTORS, FORMER
ADVOCATE AND FORMER MISS HAWAI’I CROWNED 2013.
REPRESENTATIVE GREGG TAKAYAMA DEMOCRAT SINCE 2014.
REPRESENTATIVE TAKAYAMA SPENT SIX YEARS AS SPOKESMAN
FOR U.H. MANOA. ALSO A TELEVISION NEWS REPORTER FOR
KHON. PRESS SECRETARY FOR DANIEL
INOUYE AND COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR THEN LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR BEN CAYETANO. BEFORE WE GET TO THE
CANDIDATES, LET’S TAKE LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC PROFILE OF
HOUSE DISTRICT 34 ON OAHU.>>HAWAI’I STATE HOUSE
DISTRICT 34 REPRESENTS 26,441 RESIDENTS.
OF PEARL CITY, WAIMALU AND PACIFIC PALISADES.
THE MEDIAN AGE IS 43.6 YEARS. ETHNIC BREAK OUTIS 28%
CAUCASIAN, 80% ASIAN AND 18% HAWAIIAN OR OTHER PACIFIC
ISLANDER. 6500 FAMILIES LIVING IN THE
DISTRICT. THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME
IS $86,902. MORE THAN 93% OF ALL RESIDENTS
GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND 27% HAVE A BACHELOR’S
DEGREE. 16% OF ALL RESIDENTS WERE BORN
OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES. 23% SPEAK A LANGUAGE OTHER
THAN ENGLISH. MEDIAN VALUE OF OWNER
OCCUPIED HOUSING $553,450 AND RENTAL IS $1,721.
>>FIRST OF ALL, IT’S DIFFICULT TO RUN FOR OFFICE
ANYWAY. RUNNING AS A REPUBLICAN IN
HAWAI’I MUST BE REAL CHALLENGE.
WHAT IS IT ABOUT YOURSELF, BACKGROUND, THAT MADE YOU
WANT TO TAKE ON THIS KIND OF CHALLENGE?
>>I REALLY LOVE MY COMMUNITY AND ENJOY WORKING FOR
EVERYONE AROUND ME. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A
FIVE-YEAR-OLD SON WHO IS GOING TO BE SIX TOMORROW.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO HIM. ULTIMATELY IT CAME DOWN
SERVING MY COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT’S PUBLIC
SCHOOL SYSTEM WE ARE GOES TO PUBLIC SCHOOL IS SOMEWHERE
THAT I’M PROUD TO SEND HIM. SOMEWHERE THAT PARENT ACROSS
HAWAI’I WILL BE ABLE TO FEEL THEIR CHILDREN ARE SAFE,
HEALTHY IN THIS ENVIRONMENT AND GETTING THE THINGS THAT
THEY NEED. I’M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE
COST OF LIVING. 20, 30 YEARS AGO, WILL MY SON
BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN HAWAI’I?
ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HIS GRANDPARENTS WILL BE WELL
TAKEN CARE OF IN THE FUTURE. AND THAT REPUBLICAN OR
DEMOCRAT, WE HAVE ALL OF THESE CONCERNS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR
FAMILY AND COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE IN HARD WORK.
THAT’S WHY I’M OUT THERE EVERY DAY, WORKING FOR THE FAMILIES
IN HAWAI’I.>>Daryl: GREGG TAKAYAMA
REPRESENTATIVE FOR FOUR YEARS.
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM YOUR COMMUNITY AS TO WHAT ARE THE
BIGGEST CONCERNS IN YOUR DISTRICT?
>>TRUE. TO START WITH, LITTLE
INTRODUCTION ABOUT PEARL CITY, THAT PRECEDED THE
PROGRAM DIDN’T MENTION ONE IMPORTANT FACT ABOUT OUR
DISTRICT. THAT’S THE FACT THAT OUR
PERCENTAGE OF SENIOR CITIZENS IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE
STATE. HIGHEST PERCENTAGE SENIORS
OVER THE AGE OF 60 THROUGHOUT THE STATE IS MAYBE 18%.
PEARL CITY, IT’S 24%. SO SIGNIFICANT LARGER NUMBER
OF SENIORS LIVE IN PEARL CITY THAN IN MOST OTHER DISTRICTS.
AS A RESULT, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I THINK FOR OUR
DISTRICT IS TO ENABLE THESE SENIORS OFTENTIMES FRAIL, TO
BE ABLE TO LIVE AT HOME, INDEPENDENTLY.
THEY DON’T WANT TO GO INTO A NURSING HOME.
THOSE WHO ARE FRAIL, STATE HAS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE
ASSISTANCE THROUGH THEM THROUGH PROGRAM CALLED KUPUNA
CARE, DELIVERED MEAL, EMERGENCY TRANSPORTATION AND
REFERRAL SERVICES TO OTHER AGENCIES.
THAT’S AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM THAT I’VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR
THE PAST FOUR YEARS. AND THEN ATTEMPT TO MEET THE
NEEDS OF SENIORS AND NUMBER THAT’S GOING TO BE GROWING NOT
ONLY IN PEARL CITY, BUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE.
>>Daryl: WHAT KIND OF THINGS ARE LACK NOW FOR SERVICES?
>>I WOULD AGREE WITH RECOMMEND TAKAYAMA.
THAT IS ONE OF THE TOP ISSUES IN THIS OUR DISTRICT.
ALMOST ONE-THIRD OF THE POPULATION IS 62 YEARS AND
OLDER. YES, THERE ARE THINGS BEING
DONE LIKE KUPUNA CARE. THOSE SERVICES ARE NOT
REACHING THE PEOPLE BECAUSE I’VE BEEN GOING DOOR-TO-DOOR
SINCE I RAN IN 2014. I HAVEN’T STOPPED.
INVITED INTO THE HOMES OF THESE SENIORS.
I’M SEEING THAT THAT INFORMATION IS NOT GETTING TO
THEM. WE CAN PASS ALL OF THIS
LEGISLATION, PROCEDURES AND POLICIES.
IF IT’S NOT GETTING TO THE PEOPLE, WHAT’S IT FOR?
SO I ADVOCATE HAVING MORE HANDS ON APPROACH.
TRANSITIONING PEOPLE INTO KNOWING WHAT’S AVAILABLE TO
THEM BEFORE IT BECOMES A CRISIS, BEFORE THEY BECOME
NEEDING THAT IN-HOME CARE. FOR EXAMPLE, IN JUNE, THE
GOVERNOR APPROPRIATED $1.7 MILLION TO ADRC, AGING
DISABILITY RESOURCE CENTER. RIGHT NOW, THAT’S MORE OF A ON
LINE TYPE OF THING. PHONE CALLS.
WHAT I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR IS TO HAVE A BRICK AND MORTAR
BUILDING, ADRC, RESOURCE CENTER, IN OUR DISTRICT
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST AGE POPULATIONS IN
ALL OF HAWAI’I. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF
THINGS THAT I’M WORKING TOWARDS.
>>ONE OF THE REASONS THAT KUPUNA CARE DOESN’T REACH AS
MANY SENIORS AS IT SHOULD IS BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
THAT WE’VE APPROPRIATED HAS BEEN FAR LESS THAN
SUFFICIENT. WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO DOUBLE THE
AMOUNT IN MY FOUR YEARS IN THE STATE HOUSE, DOUBLE THE
AMOUNT THAT’S BEEN APPROPRIATED FOR KUPUNA CARE
TO ABOUT 8 TO 9 MILLION. STILL TOUCHES JUST A FRACTION
OF THOSE WHO NEED IT. SO THAT’S WHY WE NEED TO DO
MORE. THERE’S UNFINISHED BUSINESS
IN TERMS OF TAKING CARE OF FAMILY CAREGIVERS.
VERY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE PASSED A LAW THIS YEAR TO HELP
FAMILY CARE GIVERS. SIGNIFICANTLY IMPORTANT.
UNDER UNFINISHED BUSINESS, PAID FAMILY LEAVE, LIKE SOME
FORM OF LONGTERM CARE INSURANCE.
THE BILL THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT’S GOVERNOR SIGNED WAS
ACTUALLY INTRODUCED BY ME. PROVIDES FUNDS FOR ADRC’S
WHICH ARE ACTUALLY REFERRAL SERVICES AND THE ONE THING
ABOUT ADRC’S, AND THESE ARE AGING AN DISABILITY RESOURCE
CENTERS, THEY DON’T REALLY HAVE TO BE A PHYSICAL OFFICE
OR BUILDING. VERY OFTENTIMES, THOSE WHO
MOST NEED SERVICES DON’T HAVE THE KIND OF MOBILITY THAT
ENABLES THEM TO GET INTO TOWN. THAT’S WHY THEY NEED TO BE
ACCESSIBLE BY PHONE, COMPUTER AND OUTREACH SERVICE.
>>Daryl: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HONOR OUR VIEWERS WHEN THEY
COME UP WITH A QUESTION. THIS IS RIGHT ON THE POINT OF
WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT CAN BOTH CANDIDATES DO TO
MAKE GOVERNMENT MORE ACCESSIBLE TO SENIOR
CITIZENS? ON POINT OF THE ADRC’S, AS I
UNDERSTAND IT, THERE WAS A REAL DISCONNECT GOING ON
BETWEEN THE STATE AND CITY GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF
DELIVERING THE SERVICES. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS
TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT, FOR EXAMPLE?
>>ACTUALLY, THE HAWAI’I COMMUNITY FOUNDATION DID A
STUDY AND THEY USED THE WORD FRAGMENTED.
DISCONNECTED. AND THERE’S A LARGE GAP IN THE
SERVICE REACHING AS I HAD JUST EXPLAINED.
AND A LOT OF THE SENIORS WHEN I GO DOOR-TO-DOOR, DON’T WANT
TO USE A COMPUTER. THEY DON’T WANT A PHONE CALL.
THEY WANT TO GO AND VISIT SOMEBODY.
THEY DON’T WANT TO GO TO TOWN. THAT’S WHY I WOULD ADVOCATE
FOR ONE OF THE ADRCs FOR TO BE IN OUR DISTRICT.
THE WAY TO BRING GOVERNMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
HAVE MY OFFICE IN DISTRICT DURING NONLEGISLATIVE TIME
PERIOD ONCE A WEEK SO THAT OUR SENIORS, THEY DON’T HAVE TO
FIGHT TRAFFIC. THEY DON’T HAVE GO FIND
PARKING. THEY DON’T HAVE TO GO WANDER
AROUND THE CAPITOL TO HAVE A FACE-TO-FACE MEETING WITH
ME LIKE WHAT I’VE BEEN HAVING WITH THEM AT THE DOOR.
>>OUTREACH TO CITIZENS, ALREADY HAVE A DISTRICT
OFFICE. 1639HOOLANA STREET.
WHICH IS MY PHONE. NUMBER IS LISTED IN THE
DIRECTLY. CELL PHONE NUMBER PRINTED ON
ALL OF MY BUSINESS CARDS AND EVERY DISTRICT THAT’S
AVAILABLE. SO WHEN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT
YOU ARE RESPONSIVE TO THEIR CALLS AND NEEDS AND EFFECTIVE
IN GETTING THINGS DONE, THEY WILL CALL YOU.
THEY WILL APPROACH YOU AND LONG’S AND FOODLAND AND CALL
YOU UP ON THE PHONE. WE AVERAGE ABOUT 3 TO 4 CALLS
FOR ASSISTANCE EVERY WEEK.>>Daryl: YOU’RE BOTH KIND OF
SAYING THE SAME THING IN A SENSE.
IF IT TAKES CALLING YOUR LOCAL LEGISLATOR GET A GOVERNMENT
SERVICE, ISN’T THAT A PROBLEM?
>>VERY OFTENTIMES PEOPLE DON’T KNOW WHERE TO GO.
THAT’S ONE OF THE IDEAS BEHIND ADRC’S.
WHICH ARE INCIDENTALLY SET UP IN EACH COUNTY.
HONOLULU, OAHU IS THE LAST ADRC TO BE SET UP.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE LEARNED FROM VERY GOOD ADRC’S
THAT ARE EXISTING ON MAUI AND KAUAI AND THE BIG ISLAND, WHAT
WE NEED DO IS LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCES OF THE OTHER
COUNTIES BECAUSE I AGREE THAT THERE ARE COMPLAINTS ABOUT
THE HONOLULU ADRC. AND ONE OF THE CALLS THAT’S
LEGISLATURE DID IS TO CALL FOR A STUDY AND ANALYSIS OF THE
HONOLULU ADRC TO SEE HOW IT COULD BE MADE MORE RESPONSIVE
AND EFFECTIVE. SO WE’RE LOOKING FORWARD TO
ACTING ON THAT. WHEN THE LEGISLATURE COMES
BACK IN JANUARY.>>Daryl: LET ME, ONE MORE
QUESTION ON SENIORS. ACTUALLY GETTING QUITE A FEW
QUESTIONS. THIS WILL BE FUN.
HOW WOULD THE CANDIDATES USE TECHNOLOGY TO GET SENIORS TO
CONNECT TO THE SERVICES? YOU MENTIONED MAYBE THEY
DON’T WANT TO USE THE COMPUTER.
IS THAT A CARROT AND THE STICK KIND OF THING?
HOW WOULD THEY GET SENIORS CONNECTED TO THE SERVICE?
>>YES, STILL MAKE PHONE CALLS.
STILL GO ON THE COMPUTER. I’M ONE OF THE FIRST
CANDIDATES TO HAVE AN ACTUAL APP ON IPHONE OR ANDROID.
PEOPLE CAN CHAT WITH ME. FIND OUT DIFFERENT
INFORMATION. I PUSH OUT INFORMATION ABOUT COMMUNITY
EVENTS, ABOUT SENIORS. THAT’S A NEW KIND OF
TECHNOLOGY. AS YOU SAID, SENIORS AS THEY
GROW IT LIKE TECHNOLOGY, THAT’S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
THEY REALLY APPRECIATE. I ALSO THINK THAT A LOT OF
PEOPLE ARE TURNING TOWARD FACEBOOK.
I CREATED AIEA PEARL CITY TRAFFIC ALERT PAGE FOR OUR
AREA. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ON THERE.
I’M SURE SOME OF THEM ARE SENIORS.
MAKING SURE WE’RE USING TECHNOLOGY IT IN A WAY THEY
CAN UNDERSTAND AND USEFUL INFORMATION.
NOT JUST STATIC STUFF THAT’S BEING THROWN OUT THERE.
>>Daryl: ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT SENIORS IS THAT AS THEY
AGE, IN PLACE, IN HOME, THEY ARE VERY OFTENTIMES
DISCONNECTED FROM THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.
EITHER BECAUSE THEY LACK TRANSPORTATION RESOURCES,
GIVEN UP DRIVER’S LICENSE AND NEED HELP ENGAGING WITH
OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT’S WHY ONE OF THE
IMPORTANT FACETS OF THE LEGISLATURE IN TERMS OF
SENIOR PROGRAMS IS TO IMPROVE THE NUMBER OF HEALTHY AGING
PROGRAMS WE HAVE. ENABLE THEM TO GO TO REC
CENTER OR CHURCH TO ENGAGE IN HEALTHY ACTIVITIES THAT
PROMOTES THEIR SOCIAL WELL-BEING.
THAT’S A FORM OF POSITIVE WELL-BEING FOR MANY SENIORS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE.>>Daryl: GOING BACK TO THAT
QUESTION. IS IT SOMETHING THAT ,THERE’S
SO MUCH RESOURCE AVAILABLE IF YOU USE THE TECHNOLOGY.
>>I WOULD AGREE.>>Daryl: IDEA OF MAYBE
TRAINING, GOING OUT AND TRAINING SENIORS IN THE
TECHNOLOGY, DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENTENCE.
>>IT DOES. TO SOME EXTENT.
I THINK WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT IN TERMS OF RESOURCES
REACHING THE SENIORS, AS I SAID EARLIER, WE ARE NOT AT
THE POINT WHERE WE’VE PROVIDE ENOUGH RESOURCES FOR THEM.
THE HEALTHY AGING PROGRAM, I TALKED ABOUT, HAS FAR LESS
FUNDING THAN IT SHOULD. THE KUPUNA CARE PROGRAM IS
UNDERFUNDED AS WELL. PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THE
NUMBER OF SENIORS IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY OVER THE NEXT
FEW YEARS. WE HAVEN’T CAUGHT UP.
>>Daryl: IF YOU ACTUALLY, IF THEY ALL ACCESSED SERVICES
YOU WOULD RUN OUT OF MONEY?>>EXACTLY.
THAT’S WHY WE NEED TO IMPROVE TOOLS LIKE PROVIDING MORE
HELP FOR FAMILY CAREGIVERS, PAID FAMILY LEAVE IS AN
IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO CONSIDER.
>>Daryl: THIS QUESTIONER JUST ASKED THAT QUESTION.
YOU ANSWERED IT. I WANT TO MOVE TON TRAFFIC.
GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON TRAFFIC.
DOES EITHER CANDIDATE HAVE A PLAN FOR TRAFFIC IN THE PEARL
CITY AREA PARTICULARLY IN THE MORNING AND EVENING PEAK
HOURS? CHERYL FROM WAIMALU.
HAVE A PLAN TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
THAT SOUNDS VERY FAMILIAR. SAME PERSON TWICE.
IF YOU PROPOSED INCREASE IN VEHICLE FUND WEIGHT TAXES HOW
WOULD WILL YOU FUND YOUR NEW HIGHWAY PROJECTS?
THREE TRAFFIC QUESTIONS. JACI AGUSTIN YOU MENTIONED
TRAFFIC BEFORE.>>YES.
>>Daryl: WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE SOLUTION THERE?
YOU’VE GOT RAIL GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
MUST BE A NIGHTMARE.>>BESIDES OUR AGING
POPULATION TRAFFIC ONE OF THE TOP THREE ISSUES IN OUR
DISTRICT. I’VE BEEN LOOKING FOR
DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS FOR A WHILE NOW.
AND ONE SIMPLE ONE IS TO CREATE BUS BAY AS LONG OUR
MOANALUA AND KAMEHAMEHA HIGHWAY BECAUSE THE BUSSES
STOP. THEY STOP MAIN FLOW OF TRAFFIC
AND THEN THE TRAFFIC GETS BACK UP.
GET THE BUSSES OFF THE MAIN FLOW, FOLKS CAN KEEP GOING.
ANOTHER MAJOR CONSIDERATION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT
FORWARD TO D.O.T. IS TO HAVE ON AND OFF RAMP AT KAONOHI.
THAT’S BEFORE OUR DISTRICT. AS WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF
PEOPLE, THEY EITHER TAKE THE OFF RAMP AT KAMEHAMEHA OR GO
DOWN TO THE PEARL CITY EXCHANGE.
THERE’S NO ON AND OFF RAMP BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
WITH THE AIEA, LIVE WORK AND PLAY AT SWAP MEET.
INCREASE TRAFFIC. NEED TO THINK ABOUT GETTING
PEOPLE ON AND OFF, ONCE THEY GET OFF IN THE PEARL RIDGE,
NEW DEVELOPMENT, GET THROUGH TO OUR DISTRICT QUICKER AND
EASIER. ALLEVIATE MORE TRAFFIC ALL
THE WAY TO THE WEST SIDE.>>ANOTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT
CONSTRUCTING A WHOLE NEW OFF RAMP WOULD BE HOW TO PAY FOR
IT. ONE OF THE ISSUES BEFORE THE
LEGISLATURE LAST YEAR WAS THE FACT THAT THE STATE D.O.T.
CAME TO THE LEGISLATURE TO ASK FOR FUNDS TO ROW MEN ISSUE THE
HIGHWAY-REPLENISH THE MY HIGHWAY FUND WHICH IS RUNNING
OUT OF MONEY. UNLESS WE TAKE STEPS TO
REPLENISH THE HIGHWAY FUND TO SOME DEGREE, NOT ENOUGH MONEY
TO CONSTRUCT PROJECTS LIKE THAT.
ADMINISTRATION ASKED TO RAISE THE GASOLINE TAX.
THE WEIGHT TAX, AND THE REGISTRATION FEE WHICH I
OPPOSED. I THINK IT WAS TOO MUCH ALL AT
ONCE. BUT I THINK AT SOME POINT,
THERE HAS TO BE SOME REPLENISHMENT.
IN A STAGGERED FORM OF INCREASE MIGHT BE OKAY.
PERHAPS DO WHAT WE DID PAST SESSION, OUT OF THE STATE
GENERAL FUNDS, WE HAVE SURPLUS OF ABOUT A BILLION
DOLLARS, WE ADD $36 MILLION STRAIGHT INTO THE HIGHWAY
FUND TO PROVIDE FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS TO
HIGHWAYS.>>Daryl: HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT
THE TAX INCREASES PROPOSED?>>I’M NOT IN SUPPORT OF TAX
INCREASES. GAS INCREASE REGRESSIVE TAX.
WE TALK ABOUT MONEY. THERE IS FEDERAL FUNDS STILL
OUT THERE THAT HAVEN’T BEEN SPENT.
JUST AT A TOWN HALL MEETING AND IT WAS 540 MILLION THAT IS
AVAILABLE. ANOTHER 100 MILLION EVERY
YEAR THAT COMES IN. SO WHY HAVEN’T WE TAKEN
ADVANTAGE OF THAT YET? I KNOW THAT WE START USING
THAT MONEY, THEN MAYBE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL SEE
THAT WE’LL BE ABLE TO USE THAT.
I KNOW PEOPLE CALL IT THE PIPELINE.
WE NEED TO START CONSIDERING THOSE FUNDS AND USING THOSE TO
TAKE CARE OF THINGS INSTEAD OF RAISING GAS TAX FIRST.
>>Daryl: YOUR DISTRICT IS GOING TO BENEFIT SOMEWHAT
FROM THE RAIL. GOING RIGHT THROUGH THERE.
IS HAVE A NUMBER OF T.O.D.ES SO ON.
WILL BE ASKED TO EXTEND THE SURCHARGE ON RAIL
INDEFINITELY OR DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
STARTED WITH YOU ON THAT.>>I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT’S
CITY NEEDS TO FINISH THE RAIL PROJECT.
AS YOU SAID, IT WILL COME TO THE LEGISLATURE AS TO WHETHER
WE EXTEND THE SURCHARGE FOR OR NOT.
I BELIEVE ON THE CONDITION THAT THE CITY DO A COUPLE OF
THINGS, WE PROBABLY SHOULD EXTEND THE SURCHARGE.
NUMBER ONE, I WOULD INSIST THAT THE CITY LOOK TO FEDERAL
AGENCIES TO TRY TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS WE GET
FROM THE FEDS. 2, CITY HAS NOT DONE A GOOD
ENOUGH JOB OF SEEKING CONTRIBUTING FUNDS FROM
PRIVATE SOURCES. FOR EXAMPLE, ALL BEEN TO
DISNEY WORLD. DISNEY LAND.
WE KNOW HOW THE MONORAIL STOPS IN THE MIDDLE OF A HOTEL.
IMAGINE THE RAIL STOPPING IN THE MIDDLE OF A SHOPPING
CENTER. CANNOT IMAGINE THAT A
SHOPPING CENTER WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE
FUNDING OF A RAIL STATION OR CONSTRUCTION OF RAIL ITSELF
IF IT WERE TO BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO YES, I DO THINK WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO EXTEND THE
SURCHARGE. BUT ON THE CONDITION THAT THE
CITY STEP UP ITS GAME AND SEEK MORE FUNDS FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION.>>I WOULD NOT VOTE TO
INCREASE THE SURCHARGE OR INCREASE THE G.E.T. SUNRISE.
THAT’S BECAUSE, AGAIN, REGRESSIVE TAX.
THERE’S A LOT OF SENIORS IN OUR DISTRICT.
A LOT OF THEM ARE LIVING ON A FIXED INCOME. THOSE KIND OF
TAX PUT THE BURDEN ON THEM. IT’S BEEN REPORTED THAT THE
RAIL IS GOING TO COST US $10.2 BILLION.
$8.6 BILLION HAS BEEN APPROPRIATED.
ALSO BEEN TALK ABOUT 10% SKIM THAT’S BEEN HAPPENING, IF WE
CUT THAT 10% SKIM RIGHT NOW, TAKES $360 MILLION
SHORTFALL. WE NEED TO START LOOK AT
PRIVATE AREAS AROUND THE T.O.D. STATIONS TO HAVE THE
CITY PARTNER WITH THEM FOR EITHER COMPLETION OR
MAINTENANCE OF THE RAIL AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK FOR FEDERAL MONIES BESIDES
THE FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION AGENCY.
THERE’S OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT MIGHT LEND MONEY.
THEN TOP OF THAT, WE NEED TO LOOK FOR OTHER WAYS BECAUSE
WHEN YOU START LOOKING TO TAX THE PEOPLE, THAT’S THE
EASIEST SOLUTION FOR POLITICIANS DO.
BUT IT’S THE HARDEST ON OUR TAXPAYERS.
THAT’S THE P L1)HDEST ON OUR COMMUNITY.
-HARDEST ON OUR COMMUNITY. NO, HAWAII NOT BE IN FAVOR OF
THAT.>>ONE OF THE THINGS — I — I
WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.>>I WOULD HATE TO SEE US END
UP NOT SUPPORTING THE RAIL AND DO SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED 20
YEARS AGO, FAILURE ON THE PART OF CITY COUNCIL TO FUND RAIL.
WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A RAIL THAT’S BEEN RUNNING FOR 20 ODD
YEARS NOW. WOULD ALL BE BENEFITING.
WE’RE NOT BUILDING THE RAIL JUST FOR US.
BUT I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT WE’RE BUILDING
THE RAIL FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
I WOULD HATE TO THINK THAT 20 YEARS FROM NOW, OUR CHILDREN
WILL COME TO US AND SAY, WHY DIDN’T YOU FINISH THE RAIL?
YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY THEN. WHY DIDN’T YOU FINISH IT?
THE SAME WAY WE QUESTION THE CITY COUNCIL NOT ACTING 24
YEARS AGO.>>I AM SUPPORT IN FINISHING
RAIL. WE NEED TO CONSIDER OTHER WAYS
OF PAYING FOR IT THAN PAYING OUT OFF YOU ARE TAXPAYER’S
POCKET.>>Daryl: RIGHT ON POINT ON
THAT. IF YOU WERE CONVINCED THOUGH
THAT IT COULDN’T BE BUILT WITHOUT EXTENDING THE TAX FOR
AT LEAST SOME PERIOD OF TIME, WOULD YOU WILLING TO CONSIDER
THAT?>>I DON’T THINK I WOULD VOTE
FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE TAX. WHEN I LOOK AT PEOPLE IN ANY
COMMUNITY AND HOW WILL THAT AFFECT THEM, PUT THE BURDEN,
NOT SENIORS JUST LIVING ON FIXED INCOMES.
WORKING FAMILIES LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK IN OUR
DISTRICT. HALF PERCENT, HOWEVER IT MAY BE, COULD PUT
THEM IN A SITUATION THAT’S NOT —
>>IT’S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER TOO THAT CONSTRUCTING A RAIL,
WE’RE NOT JUST BUILDING A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
WE’RE ACTUALLY BUILDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AT EACH OF THE
20 RAIL STATIONS, WE’RE BUILDING OPPORTUNITIES TO
BUILD THE ECONOMY THROUGH, AND AS WELL AS SERVE OUR
HOUSING.>>Daryl: PROBABLY AGREE WITH
ABOUT THAT?>>LOOK INTO THE PRIVATE AREA.
>>Daryl: FINISH THE RAIL AND GIVE CITY TOOLS AND FINANCIAL
RESOURCES TO FINISH IT.>>Daryl: QUESTION ABOUT THE
500-POUND GORILLA IN THE ROOM.
I DON’T MEAN THAT AS A DESCRIPTION OF DONALD TRUMP.
BIG FACTOR IN THIS CAMPAIGN. QUESTION FROM SOMEONE.
JACI, DO YOU SUPPORT TRUMP AND WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON YOUR
RESPECTIVE PARTY POTENTIAL CANDIDATES?
IN OTHER WORDS, DOES JACI SUPPORT TRUMP AND DOES GREGG
SUPPORT CLINTON? WHAT ISSUES CAN THEY RELATE TO
WITH YOUR CANDIDATE?>>DONALD TRUMP IS A HARD PILL
TO SWALLOW. I AM A REPUBLICAN.
AS EVERYBODY KNOWS. BUT I CAN’T DEFEND THE THINGS
THAT HE SAID ABOUT WOMEN. HOWEVER, I DO SUPPORT THE
DEMOCRATIC PROCESSMENT. I SUPPORT THAT REPUBLICANS
ACROSS AMERICA HAVE VOTED HIM AS OUR NOMINEE AND I SUPPORT
THAT.>>Daryl: HOW DO YOU, WHEN
PEOPLE ASK YOU ABOUT IT, THAT’S YOUR ANSWER?
ARE THEY SATISFIED WITH THAT? HOW COULD YOU AS A WOMAN
SUPPORT HIM?>>I’M A REPUBLICAN BECAUSE
I’M CONSERVATIVE FISCALLY AND MORALLY.
THAT’S WHAT IT IS. BOTH PARTIES HAVE PEOPLE
RUNNING THAT THEY MIGHT NOT THINK ARE THE BEST CANDIDATE.
WE CAN THROW IT EITHER WAY. ULTIMATELY, I’M A REPUBLICAN
BECAUSE OF THOSE REASONS. AND WHEN I TALK, WHEN PEOPLE
ASK ME, I SAY, I’M FOCUSING ALL OF MY ENERGY ON THIS RACE.
AND IN THIS DISTRICT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT’S WHAT IT REALLY IS FOR. THERE’S CAMPAIGN THAT I FULLY
SUPPORT 100% AND GET BEHIND 100% AND THAT’S MINE.
TRUMP IS AND ENTITY. I SUPPORT OUR NOMINEE.
>>I THINK IN THE END, WHEN IT COMES TO LOCAL DISTRICT
RACES, PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT THE CANDIDATE PROBABLY MORE SO
THAN PARTY LABELS. HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK
THERE ARE SOME GENERAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN
DEMOCRATS AN REPUBLICANS. FOR ONE, WHEN PEARL CITY
VOTERS GET THEIR BALLOT IN THE MAIL, OR AT THE VOTING BOOTH,
THEY WILL SEE AT THE TOP OF THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET HILLARY
CLINTONS. THEY’LL SEE SENATOR BRIAN
SCHATZ AND CONGRESSWOMAN COLLEEN HANABUSA AND I’LL BE
SOMEONE BELOW THERE. IN EACH THE CASES I’M PROUD TO
SAY THAT I’M ON THE SLATE WITH THESE OTHER CANDIDATES.
THINK THEY’RE TERRIFIC LEADERS AND I THINK THEY’LL BE
TERRIFIC ELECTED OFFICIALS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE HAWAI’I CONGRESSIONAL
DELEGATION. I DON’T THINK THE REPUBLICAN
CANDIDATES CAN SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT THEIR SLATE OF
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES.>>Daryl: LAST QUESTION ON
THIS. JACI AGUSTIN, SO ARE YOU
WORRIED THAT FOR YOURSELF AND FOR OTHER REPUBLICANS, THAT
STATE OF THE PARTY WITH TRUMP AS THE HEAD OF THE CANDIDATE,
ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT REPUBLICANS MAY NOT GO TO THE
POLLS IN THE NUMBERS THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO ACTUALLY HELP
COMPETITIVE.>>JUST BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP
IS NOT PERSONAL FAVORITE, THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT
REPUBLICANS AROUND THE NATION AND IN HAWAI’I THAT THEY
REALLY RALLY AROUND HIM AND REALLY LIKE HIM.
SO TRUMP MIGHT PULL PEOPLE TO THE POLLS.
SO IT COULD EITHER WAY. I WOULDN’T DETERMINE MY,
WHOEVER COMES OUT TO VOTE IN OUR RACE WOULD BE BASED ON
DONALD TRUMP. THEY’RE GOING TO COME OUT AND
VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE AS REPRESENTATIVE TAKAYAMA
SAYS.>>Daryl: THIS IS AN
INTERESTING QUESTION. THOUGHTFUL QUESTION.
IT SAYS, FOR GREGG TAKAYAMA. IN 2014, YOU RECEIVED AND
ENDORSEMENT FROM HCGA, STATE’S LARGEST UNION.
2016, YOU DID NOT RECEIVE THEIR ENDORSEMENT.
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOU THINK YOU DIDN’T RECEIVE THE
ENDORSEMENT. IF WE COULD ALSO TALK WITH YOU
ABOUT ROLE OF PUBLIC WORKER UNIONS IN THE STATE.
SPECIFICALLY.>>TWO IMPORTANT REASONS AS
FAR AS I UNDERSTAND. NUMBER ONE, I SUPPORTED
PRIVATIZATION OF THE MAUI HOSPITAL SYSTEM.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. I THINK IT WILL ENABLE THE
PEOPLE OF YOU WHO I DO BENEFIT FROM A FINANCIAL SOLVENT
HOSPITAL SYSTEM WHICH IS IN DANGER OF GOING BANKRUPT
UNLESS THE LEGISLATURE APPROVED A GOVERNOR’S PLAN TO
PRIVATIZE IT. HGEA OF COURSE, WAS AGAINST
IT. ANOTHER THING IS THAT IN THE
INTERVIEW PROCESS, ALL OF THESE UNIONS HAVE SOME KIND OF
INTERVIEW PROCESS. THEY ASKED ME IF I WOULD
SUPPORT PROGRAMS TO REDUCE GOVERNMENT SERVICES.
I SAID, I WOULDN’T RULE IT OUT.
I WOULD NOT RULE IT OUT. AND ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT
I SUGGESTED WE TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT, FOR EXAMPLE, IS RIGHT
OUTSIDE OUR CAPITOL OFFICES. WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED
CAPITOL POOL. AND IT REQUIRES FULL-TIME
WORKERS, THREE OR FOUR OF THEM DO, NOTHING BUT CLEAN THE
POOL. I SAID, WHAT A WASTE OF
RESOURCES. I MEAN, WE CAN REUSE THOSE
WORKERS IN PLACES CLEANING PUBLIC PARKS, SCHOOLS
MAINTAINING.>>Daryl: ARE YOU CONCERNED
ABOUT THE POWER OF PUBLIC WORKER UNIONS?
MAUI HOSPITAL, YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
STILL HASN’T HAPPENED.>>I THINK THAT I BELIEVE OF
UNIONS BECAUSE THEY GIVE POWER BACK TO THE PEOPLE AND
I’M FOR WORKERS. CAN YOU REITERATE THE
QUESTION?>>Daryl: MORE ABOUT WHETHER
HGEA ENDORSED HIM. YOU’RE OF A UNION PUNISHING
MEMBERS WHO VOTE AGAINST THEM.
IN THIS CASE, BEING TOUGH NEGOTIATORS ON THIS THING,
IT’S NOW STILL STALLED. I MEAN, DO YOU THINK THAT THIS
IS TOO MUCH INFLUENCE?>>I THINK WHAT IT BOWELS DOWN
TO HGEA INTERVIEWED BOTH OF US.
THAT IS WHAT THE OUTCOME CAME, THEY DIDN’T ENDORSE EITHER OF
US AFTER ENDORSING HIM IN THE PRIOR.
THAT’S THEIR DECISION. I DON’T KNOW IT’S THEIR POWER
SWINGING OR NOT. BASED ON THE INTERVIEW
MOSTLY.>>Daryl: ACTUALLY, WE ARE OUT
OF TIME. THAT WAS REALLY FAST.
THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
BEFORE WE NOW TURN TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT HONOLULU
CHARTER AMENDMENT 7, LET’S TURN TO THE SUBJECTS OF
ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.
WHEN YOU LIVE ALONG THE BEAUTIFUL COASTLINE OF
LEEWARD OAHU, YOU GET TO EXPERIENCE A SPECIAL
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OCEAN. HIKI NO STUDENTS FROM WAIANAE
HIGH SCHOOL SHARE THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT OVERFISHING IN
LOCAL WATERS.>>ENVIRONMENT IS ALL ABOUT
BALANCE. AND WHEN YOU LOSE BALANCE
NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENS SOMETHING ALONG THAT FOOD
PYRAMID CRASHES.>>OH.!
>>I HAVE SOMETHING. DON’T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
>>HE LIVES FOR THE CATCH. I FISH FOR PASSION.
FISH FOR EXCITEMENT. I FISH FOR MY OWN JOY.
LIVE AND DIE FOR THAT. TODAY, HE’S BEEN LUCKY.
VERY SOON, HIS LUCK WILL CHANGE.
ACCORDING TO THE FOOD AND AGRICULTURAL ORGANIZATION OF
THE UNITED STATIONS, ESTIMATE MORE THAN 3/4 OF THE WORLD’S
FISH STOCKS ARE OVEREXPLOITED.
>>IF I COULDN’T FISH ANY MORE, DON’T KNOW WHAT I WOULD
DO. I THINK I WOULD BE KIND OF
LOST.>>THIS IS AN ALL TOO REAL
POSSIBILITY. IF THE OVERFISHING CONTINUE,
THE WORLD’S FISH STOCKS WILL BE DEPLETED BY THE YEAR 2048
ACCORDING TO A JOURNAL IN SCIENCE MAGAZINE.
>>THIS IS BREAK TIME.>>FOR PEOPLE LIKE EILEEN AND
HER FAMILY, TAKING A BREAK ISN’T SOMETHING THEY CAN
AFFORD.>>IT’S STARTED OUT
RECREATIONAL. KIND OF GET HOOKED ON IT.
SO WE DO IT QUITE OFTEN NOW. COMMERCIALLY.
ENDED UP WITH 15 OCTOPUS, RANGING FROM 8 TO 10 POUNDS.
>>IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE TIDES AND THE CURRENT.
>>IT WASN’T ALWAYS LIKE THIS THOUGH.
WE COULD GO REALLY CLOSE TO SHORE AND CATCH AHI, CATCH
SIX, SEVEN A DAY WITHIN A COUPLE OF HOURS.
YOU CAN’T DO THAT ANY MORE.
>>. DECLINE FROM 30 YEARS AGO.
>>WE HAVE TO THE CAUTIOUS WORLDWIDE SCALE NOT TO
OVERHARVEST. DEMAND FOR FISH PROTEIN GOES
UP. DEMAND FOR FISH GOES UP.
>>OCEAN HAS HAD TO KEEP UP WITH EVER INCREASING DEMAND
FOR YEARS. SINCE 1973, GLOBAL
CONSUMPTION OF FISH HAS DOUBLED.
GOING FROM 45 MILLION METRIC TONS TO OVER 90 MILLION
METRIC TONS CONSUMED DURING RECENT YEARS.
>>SO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS MANAGE THE AMOUNT OF FISH THAT
GET TAKEN OUT IN A RELATIVE RATIO.
SO THAT THAT BALANCE CONTINUES TO EXIST.
>>THE BALANCE BEGINS TO SINK WHEN THERE’S LITTLE BEING
DONE TO KEEP THE FISH POPULATION AFLOAT.
>>PEOPLE TAKE WHAT THEY DON’T NEED.
TAKE MORE THAN WHAT IS GIVEN.>>WILL THERE BE A LOT OF FISH
AROUND? I DON’T KNOW.
HOPEFULLY, WE WON’T HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THAT.
BUT WE DON’T KNOW THAT IS A FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN.
>>FEAR NOT ONLY FOR THEMSELVES BUT FOR FUTURE
GENERATION AS WELL.>>WE WANT TO HAVE FISH FOR OUR
CHILDREN AND OUR CHILDREN’S CHILDREN.
>>YOUNGER FISHERS ARE STARTING TO CATCH ON.
>>NOT TAKING WHAT I DON’T NEED.
A LOT FOR OTHER PEOPLE. LIKE TO SHARE.
>>HE’S DOING HIS PART ONE FISH AT A TIME.
>>FIRST WISH IS ALWAYS A THROW BACK FISH.
EVEN THOUGH THERE’S SOMETHING OUT THERE.
>>CRYSTAL REPORTING FROM WAIANAE HIGH SCHOOL FOR
HIKI NO.>>Daryl: WELCOME BACK.
NOW, TO ONE OF THE 20 HONOLULU CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT OAHU
VOTERS ARE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER THIS ELECTION YEAR.
AMENDMENT 7 SEEKS APPROVAL TO CREATE A NEW AGENCY DEDICATED
TO THE CLIMATE CHANGE, SUSTAINABILITY, AND
RESILIENCY. TO SHARE THEIR VIEWS ON
AMENDMENT 7. CHARYL SOON MEMBER OF
HONOLULU CHARTER COMMISSION, CERTIFIED CITY PLANNER AND
FELLOW IN THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CITY PLANNING.
MS. SOON HAS MORE THAN 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN
GOVERNMENT AND HAS PRIVATE CONSULTING HE IS EXPERIENCE
ENGINEERING AND TRANSPORTATION FIRMS
INCLUDING PRESENT EMPLOYMENT AT SSFM INTERNATIONAL WHERE
SHE IS MANAGER OF ITS PLANNING GROUP.
ANDREW ROTHSTEIN IS OWNER OF REAL ESTATE APPRAISAL COMPANY
THAT FOCUSES PRIMARILY ON LITIGATION AND SOIL MOVEMENT
PROJECTS. MR. ROTHSTEIN WAS A M.E.
DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD FOR FIVE YEARS, DURING WHICH
TIME HE ALSO SERVE OFFED AS ITS CHAIRMAN.
AS A MEMBER. COMMISSION, SOON, EXPLAIN TO
ME WHY YOU FOLKS FELT WE NEED ANOTHER AGENCY ABOUT THE
SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
ISN’T THAT SORT OF SOMETHING PEOPLE CAN DEAL WITH WITHOUT
FORMING A NEW AGENCY?>>GOOD YES.
IT’S NOT AN AGENCY. THERE ARE OFFICE OF.
THERE ARE OTHER OFFICES OF, SUCH AS OFFICE OF ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT. CULTURE AND ARTS.
THEY TEND TO BE STAFFED WITH ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, AT THE
MOST, PEOPLE. SO THEY’RE SMALL.
NOT SIZE OF FULL AGENCY. THE IMPORTANCE HERE IS THAT
THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII PREDICTS THAT BY 2050, WE’LL
HAVE A ONE METER RISE FROM SEA LEVEL.
THIS WILL IMMEDIATELY EFFECT A NUMBER OF CITY RESOURCES
SUCH AS SEWER, WATER LINES, PUMP STATIONS, AND MANY OTHER
FACILITIES. THE EXPERTS AT THE UNIVERSITY
OF HAWAII HAVE BEEN URGING GOVERNMENT FOR SOME TIME TO
GET ON BOARD WITH LOOKING AT BOTH ADAPTATION STRATEGIES
AND RESILIENCY STRATEGIES DEFINED HOW THE PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY ADJUST AND ADAPT TO THE THINGS THAT WILL BE
COMING. HOW WOULD THIS AGENCY MAKE A
DIFFERENCE RATHER THAN JUST MAKING SURE THAT’S FOLDED
INTO THE DECISION?>>THEY’RE CHARGED WITH
COMING AND COMING FORTH WITH THE LATEST SCIENCE OF SUBJECT
OF CLIMATE CHANGE, TRANSLATING THAT AND
OVERLAYING IT WITH CITY FACILITIES AND WORKING WITH
THE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO COME UP WITH THEIR ADJUSTMENT
STRATEGIES. SAME THING IS HAPPENING AT THE
STATE LEVEL. AND THE COORDINATION WITH THE
STATE WILL OCCUR BECAUSE SOMETIMES FACILITIES ARE
ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER AND YOU MAY WANT TO COMMONLY SOLVE A
AIRPORT PROBLEM WITH A PARK PROBLEM NEARBY.
AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL. EVERYONE IS BEING URGED TO
MOVE AS SWIFTLY AS THEY CAN TO DEVELOP EXPERTISE AND TO
TRANSLATE IT INTO THE FACILITIES OF THEIR
COMMUNITIES.>>Daryl: ANDREW ROTHSTEIN,
WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL?
>>I HAVE TWO LEVELS OF CONCERN.
THE FIRST IS IT’S ANOTHER BUREAUCRACY.
THOSE PEOPLE WHO READ MY LETTER TO THE EDITOR ABOUT A
MONTH A WOULD KNOW THAT I’M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE
EXPANSION OF GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY.
THE SECOND REASON IS WHOLE CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUE IS
PRETTY MUCH OF A HOAX. AT LEAST AS FAR AS WE THINK WE
CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT’S CAUSED BY
HUMANS. IT’S HISTORICAL FACT THAT OUR
PLANET HAS GONE THROUGH FIVE ICE AGES OVER ITS HISTORY.
AND THEREFORE, THERE HAVE BEEN FIVE PERIODS OF GLOBAL
WARMING THAT HAVE OCCURRED. EACH OF THOSE PERIODS OF
GLOBAL WARMING STARTED LONG BEFORE HUMANITY COULD HAVE
HAD ANY IMPACT ON THE CLIMATE SITUATION.
>>Daryl: LET ME INTERRUPT YOU.
WHETHER IT WAS CAUSED BY HUMANS OR WHETHER JUST
HAPPENING NATURALLY, THERE STILL IS THIS ANTICIPATED SEA
LEVEL RISE. ALREADY BEEN MEASURED CERTAIN
EXTENT. DO YOU THINK THAT’S JUST NOT
GOING TO HAPPEN SO YOU DON’T NEED THIS OFFICE?
>>WELL, I DON’T KNOW THAT IT’S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE
THE PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON COMPUTER MODELS THAT HAVE
PROVEN TO BE GROSSLY OUT OF SYNC IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING
ON. MAYBE YOU REMEMBER THAT THEY
WERE PREDICTING WHOLE BUNCHES OF ADDED HURRICANES, OVER BY
THE EAST COAST. AND WE HAD SEVERAL YEARS OF
PRACTICALLY NO HURRICANES AND TWO THIS YEAR.
WHEN I WAS A KID, LIVING ON LONG ISLAND, WE HAD
HURRICANES EVERY YEAR. NOT MAJOR BIG ONES LIKE
CATEGORY 5 OR SOMETHING, BUT WE HAD CATEGORY 1 HURRICANES
ALMOST EVERY SUMMER.>>Daryl: YOU’RE NOT A
CLIMATEOLOGIST, YOU’RE AN URBAN PLANNER.
HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT THOUGHT?
>>LIVING PATTERNS HAVE BROUGHT US CLOSER AND CLOSER
TO THE COASTAL ZONE OF OUR ISLAND.
IT IS MOSTLY ACCEPTED, MAYBE ANDREW MIGHT NOT ACCEPT,
BIGGEST IMPACT OF CHANGES IN THE CLIMATE ARE FELT ON ISLAND
STATES AND WE ARE AN ISLAND STATE.
IT IS IT NOT JUST SEA LEVEL RISE, ALTHOUGH THAT IS AN
IMPORTANT COMPONENT. IT IS THE CHANGE IN WEATHER
PATTERNS. THE SEVERITY OF WEATHER
EVENTS BOTH WIND EVENTS AND RAIN EVENT, WE DON’T HAVE TO
GO LOWER THAN SEVERAL MONTHS BACK TO FIND EVENTS WHERE
FLOODING AND COASTAL EROSION HAVE BEEN ACCELERATED BECAUSE
OF WINTER STORMS. WE DO NOT ARGUE WHAT THE
CAUSES ARE. WE COULD, BUT THAT’S REALLY
NOT THE POINT OF THIS AMENDMENT.
THE POINT IS THAT THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR CITY &
COUNTY EXISTS WITHIN INUNDATION ZONES AND
SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO ADDRESS THAT.
>>Daryl: FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT MR. ROTHSTEIN HAS SAID ABOUT
THE BUREAUCRATIC ASPECT OF IT.
THERE IS REACTION TO PEOPLE WHO GO, HERE’S A PROBLEM WE’VE
GOT TO THROW SOME BUREAUCRATS AT IT.
HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT? MAYBE THIS COULD BE DONE
WITHOUT NECESSARILY ADDING PEOPLE?
>>WELL, I THINK TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, THE CITY HAS A
WORKFORCE OF 8500. THE OFFICE, NOT AGENCY, BUT
THE OFFICE OF CLIMATE CHANGE MAY ADD ONE OR POSSIBLY TWO.
THAT’S NOT A HUGE BLOATING A BUREAUCRACY BY ANY STRETCH OF
THE IMAGINATION. THE FUNDING FOR A RESILIENCY
OFFICER IS ALREADY KNOWN FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS.
IT WILL COME FROM A ROCKEFELLER FOUNDATION GRANT
WHICH IS PROVIDING FUNDS TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS.
THE ESTABLISHMENT IN A CHARTER, THE OTHER QUESTION
YOU HAVEN’T ASKED, OFTEN DOES GET ASKED, WHY DO YOU NEED THE
CHARTER TO DO IN? COULDN’T YOU DO THIS WITHOUT
THE CHARTER? YES, YOU CAN DO THIS WITHOUT
THE CHARTER BUT THE CHARTER IS THE STATEMENT OF WHO WE ARE
AND HOW WE ORGANIZE OUR GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS AND HOW
THEY RELATE TO EACH OTHER. IT’S A VERY STRONG THING TO
MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE,
SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY IN THE CHARTER.
THAT WILL ACTUALLY PROBABLY POSITION US FOR ACCESS TO
OTHER FOUNDATION GRANTS. I HAVE A PERSONALLY GREAT
AMOUNT OF CONFIDENCE THAT THERE WILL BE OTHERS THAT WILL
FOLLOW THE ROCKEFELLER FOUNDATION GRANT.
>>Daryl: LET ME ASK. THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE,
PROBABLY MAJORITY, THAT TEND TO ACCEPT THE CLIMATE CHANGE
ARGUMENT. THAT IT’S HAPPENING.
HOW DOES IT FEEL FOR YOU TO BE SORT OF IN THE MINORITY ON
THIS ISSUE AND TO US THAT DRIVE YOU TO WANT TO KEEP
MAKING THIS POINT?>>WELL, I’M NOT SURE THAT I’M
IN THE MINORITY. I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
PRO CLIMATE CHANGE ARE A, THEY’RE A SPECTRUM OF PEOPLE
AND VERY LOUD. AND THEY’RE SUPPORTED BY THE
PRESS. I DON’T KNOW THAT THEY
CONSTITUTE A MAJORITY. THE OTHER, I HAVE ANOTHER
OBJECTION AND THAT IS THIS WHOLE CONCEPT OF
SUSTAINABILITY. BACK IN THE EARLY 1800’S,
THERE WAS AN ECONOMIST NAMED MOLFIS WHO BELIEVED THAT
HUMANITY WAS GOING TO OUTGROW ITS ABILITY TO FEED ITSELF.
AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT SUSTAINABLABILITY PEOPLE ARE
SAYING. THAT IF WE DON’T DO SOMETHING,
WE’LL OUTGROW OUR RESOURCES. AND THE PROBLEM WITH
SUSTAINABILITY IS THAT IT REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
WHEN PRESSURE IS PUT ON THE SOCIETY FOR SOME NEED, THAT WE
SEEK SOLUTIONS TO IT. AND WE CREATE FERTILIZE, WE
CREATE GENETIC MEANS OF IMPROVING OUR FOOD SUPPLY AND
SO ON. AND MOLFIS COULD NOT CONCEIVE
OF THE ABILITY THAT WE HAVE TODAY TO FEED PEOPLE.
I MEAN, AT HIS TIME, LIKE 90% OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY
WERE LIVING IN RURAL AREAS. TODAY, 90% OF THE PEOPLE LIVE
IN URBAN AREAS.>>Daryl: CHARYL SOON, ON THAT
POINT, TECHNOLOGY WILL HELP US.
TO A CERTAIN EXTENT THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE SAYING.
WE NEED THE TECHNOLOGY ON THE SHORELINES FORUM COMING
CHANGE.>>WE NEED TO BE FOCUS ADD
CONSCIOUS OF THE CHOICES WE’RE MAKING.
WHETHER THEY ARE MADE BY GOVERNMENT OR INDIVIDUALS.
AND THE SUSTAINABILITY MOVEMENT IS REALLY ASKING
PEOPLE TO TAKE A FOCUSED LOOK AT EITHER THEIR USE OF THE
FUELS THAT THEY USE FOR ENERGY, THE WAY THEY USE
WATER, THE WAY THEY GET THEIR FOOD, AND ARE WE USING
RESOURCES IN THE WAY THAT THEY CAN BE REPLENISHED?
>>Daryl: GOT A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS FROM VIEWERS.
MOST OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY FOR CHERYL SOON BECAUSE OF THE
DETAILED QUESTIONS. IF THE OFFICE ONLY HAS ONE OR
TWO PEOPLE, HOW CAN MUCH GET DONE?
>>WELL, THE ASSIGNMENT THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE CITY
CHARTER IS TO NAME THIS AS A FUNCTION OF CITY GOVERNMENT
AND TO RELATE IT TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEM. THE
OFFICE IS CHARGED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF GATHERING
LATEST SCIENCE AS IT APPLIES TO HONOLULU AND TRANSFERRING
THAT INFORMATION TO THE AGENCIES SUCH AS
ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, THAT RUNS THE SEWAGE TREATMENT
PLANTS OR FACILITIES MAINTENANCE IN CHARGE OF
ROADS. THEY ARE ASKED TO CONVENE AND
EXPERT PANEL EACH YEAR AND TO DEBATE THE SUBJECT.
KEEP THE CONSCIOUSNESS GOING. AS WE PERHAPS GET BETTER OR
NOT, THEN THAT OFFICE MAY HAVE TO ALTER ITSELF.
WE DON’T FORESEE THAT HAPPENING FOR A FEW YEARS.
>>Daryl: CAN YOU RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION?
>>YEAH. BACK IN 2002, I HAD TO
APPRAISE A PROPERTY ON YOUNG STREET AND AS PART OF THE
APPRAISAL PROCESS, I HAD TO CHECK OUT WHAT COULD BE BUILT
ON THE PROPERTY. THAT IS LIMITED BY THE
UTILITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. AS I CHECKED THAT OUT, I
DISCOVERED THAT MAKIKI HAS A SEWER MORATORIUM GOING ON AT
THE TIME. SO I CALLED THE, I DON’T KNOW,
IT’S NOT A DEPARTMENT. IT’S A SECTION OF ONE OF THE
DEPARTMENTS THERE. AND I TALKED TO THEM.
I SAID, WELL, WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR CORRECTING THIS
SITUATION? WE DON’T HAVE ANY PLANS TO
CORRECT THE SITUATION.>>Daryl: TODAY, THEY ACTUALLY
OPENED AWE BIG DIGESTER THAT THEY SAY IS GOING TO CORRECT
THE SITUATION.>>2002.
THIS IS 2002. AS LATE AS LIKE TWO OR THREE
YEARS AGO, DOING AN APPRAISAL ON KAPIOLANI BOULEVARD.
RAN INTO THE SAME SITUATION. GROUP OF PRIVATE DEVELOPERS
TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO SUBSCRIBE TO A PRIVATE SEWER
LINE THAT WERE CONNECTED TO WAIKIKI SEWER SYSTEM TO THE
TREATMENT PLANT.>>Daryl: I NEED YOU TO GET TO
THE POINT ON THIS.>>THE POINT IS THAT WE CAN’T
EVEN KEEP THE SEWER SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE WORKING
PROPERLY, AND NOW, WE’RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT
THROWING RESOURCES TO REMOVE UTILITIES FROM INSIDE THIS
SUPPOSEDLY FLOOD ZONE, AND GOING TO BE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE
THAT ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THIS?
I DON’T SEE HOW IT HAPPENS. AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU
CREATE A BUREAUCRACY, THE BUREAUCRACY HAS TWO
DIRECTIVES. ONE, SURVIVE.
TWO, EXPAND. IT’S NOT A CYNICAL VIEW.
EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE TIME WE CREATE A
BUREAUCRATIC INSTITUTION. EVEN IF IT IS JUST ONE PERSON
OR TWO, I REMEMBER GOING INTO THE STATE AND TALKING TO
SOMEONE WHO WAS PART OF THE HISTORICAL BUILDING SECTION.
I ASKED HIM, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHETHER A BUILDING
IS HISTORICAL. AND HIS RESPONSE WAS, IF I
THINK IT’S HISTORICAL, IT’S HISTORICAL.
>>Daryl: IF YOU WANT TO RESPOND.
I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO GIVE A EXAMPLE THAT I THINK ANDREW
CAN RELATE TO BECAUSE HE IS A APPRAISER.
VALUE OF PROPERTY IN A COASTAL AREA AND THE COST OF OWNING
THAT IS CHANGING BECAUSE THE INSURANCE LINES THAT BECOME
THE FIRM LINES, ARE BEING BROUGHT FARTHER AWAY FROM THE
OCEAN BECAUSE THE FLOODING AREA IS BEING EXTENDED.
BOTH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE FLOOD
INSURANCE AND THE OF THAT FLOOD INSURANCE IS INCREASING
WHICH IS A DIRECT REFLECTION OF THE FLOODING INSTANCES
THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE, NOT ONLY HERE, BUT ON THE
MAINLAND.>>Daryl: COUPLE MORE
QUESTIONS FROM VIEWERS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO
THESE. IN LINE OF WHAT WE’VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT. WHAT KIND OF POWER WOULD THIS
OFFICE HAVE? IF A PERSON THERE FELT LIKE AN
AGENT, ANOTHER AGENCY WAS DOING SOMETHING WRONG OR
WASN’T LISTENING, WHAT ABILITY WOULD THEY HAVE?
>>ONLY HAVE THE POWER OF PERSUASION AND THE POWER OF
COOPERATION. THEY DO NOT HAVE POWERS OVER
ANY OF THE OTHER AGENCIES.>>Daryl: UNTIL THAT GETS
AMENDED BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS A BRIGHT IDEA IT OUGHT TO BE
AMENDED JUST LIKE A NUMBER OF THE CURRENT CHARTER PROPOSALS
ARE TO AMEND THE ABILITIES OF VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.
>>THE PLACEMENT OF THIS OFFICE WAS TALKED ABOUT AT
CHARTER MISSION AND IT WAS PLACED IN THE MANAGING
DIRECT’S OFFICE WHICH IS THE BEST LOCATION FOR THEM TO BE
ABLE TO REACH DOWN AND WORK WITH MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.
>>Daryl: ON THAT POINT, SO THE POWER WOULD BE WHATEVER THE
MANAGING DIRECTOR TOOK FROM THEM AND MADE SURE THE OTHER
DEPARTMENTS RESPOND?>>THAT’S CORRECT.
THE OTHER PLACES THAT THAT IT WAS CONSIDERED WAS THE
DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING & PERMITTING.
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF FACILITIES MAINTENANCE.
BOTH CONSIDER IT AS THE LOCUS FOR THIS OFFICE.
>>Daryl: PUTS THE BRAIN SORT OF AT THE LEVEL WHERE PEOPLE
CAN BE TOLD WHAT TO DO? IS THE POWER IS AT THE TOP OF
THE BUREAUCRACY.>>YES.
>>Daryl: WHERE WILL THE FUNDING COME FROM AND WHAT THE
ESTIMATED YEARLY COST OF THE AMENDMENT.
EXTEND IT BEYOND THE PEOPLE AND KINDS YOU HAVE STUFF THEY
WOULD BE DOING. MEETING, PLANNING SESSIONS.
WOULD THAT ALSO HAVE A COST?>>WELL, THEY WOULD HAVE THE
ACCESS TO CITY RESOURCES FOR HAVING MEETINGS.
SO AUDITORIUM, ANY OF THE MANY CONFERENCE ROOMS LOCATED IN
CITY HALL OR MUNICIPAL BUILDING OR NEAL BLAISDELL
CENTER. SO THEIR MEETINGS SHOULD NOT
HAVE ANY COST ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
THE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, SALARY LEVELS, I’M GUESSING ANYWHERE
FROM 50,000 TO 75,000. IT WOULD BE MY GUESS IN THAT
RANGE. AND THE OTHER COSTS, THERE WAS
TO BE AN ADVISORY GROUP AND WE EXPECT THEM TO SERVE FREE.
>>Daryl: THERE’S OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT ALSO ADD
OFFICES. NUMBER 9 I THINK IS THE OTHER
ONE. WHAT IS IN THAT ONE THAT
CONCERNS YOU?>>NUMBER 8 I THINK.
>>8, YEAH. AGAIN, I’M REALLY CONCERNED
ABOUT THAT SORT OF THING. 8 IS DEPARTMENT OF LAND
MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBLE PROTECTION AND DEVELOPMENT OF
CITY LANDS BE ESTABLISHED. MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT
GOVERNMENT HAS A VERY POOR RECORD OF MAINTAINING ITS
PROPERTY. I CAN GO BACK IN MY
EXPERIENCE. I WAS APPROACHED BY A CLIENT
TO APPRAISE AN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY ABOUT AN ACRE IN
SIZE. BEING LEASED BY THE STATE.
AND THIS WAS SECOND TEN YEAR RENEGOTIATION PERIOD, AND SO
THE PROPERTY HAD BEEN LEASED TO THE STATE FOR 20 YEARS.
THE PURPOSE OF THE PROPERTY WAS TO PROVIDE AUXILIARY
PARKING FOR A STATE FACILITY. AND I WENT OUT LOOK AT THE
PROPERTY AND IT WAS COMPLETELY OVERGROWN WITH
TREES AN SHRUBS. EXCEPT FOR A SMALL AREA WHERE
PEOPLE HAD DRIVEN ON TO THE LOT AND CREATED A DIRT AREA
WHERE THREE CARS WERE PARKED. SO THE STATE WAS PAYING AN
ENORMOUS SUM EVERY YEAR TO HAVE A ONE ACRE INDUSTRIAL
PROPERTY USED SO THAT THEY COULD PARK THREE CARS ON IT.
AND I’VE RUN INTO ALL KINDS OF, LIKE THE SEWER EXIST GAVE
YOU FOR THE CITY & COUNTY. THE FACT THAT THEY HAD NO
PLANS TO DIRECT INEFFICIENCY IN THE SEWAGE SYSTEM.
>>Daryl: ISN’T THE INTENTION TO CORRECT WHAT YOU’RE
DESCRIBING, THAT BASICALLY, CREATE AN OFFICE THAT WOULD
MANAGE THESE PROPERTIES?>>WELL, IT’S JUST ANOTHER
OFFICE. WHY AREN’T THESE PROPERTIES
BEING MANAGED BY THE SECTIONS OF GOVERNMENT THAT ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM TO BEGIN WITH?
>>Daryl: THAT’S THE QUESTION.>>THAT’S EXACTLY WHY, IN THE
ORGANIZATION OF CITY CHARTER, WHICH ORGANIZES DEPARTMENT,
THERE IS NO DEPARTMENT ASSIGNED TO TAKE CARE OF LAND.
YET LAND IS FUNDAMENTAL IN HAWAI’I.
WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE AINA. OUR STATE MOTTO, LIFE OF THE
LAND, IT’S FUNDAMENTALLY UNDERSTOOD BY PEOPLE, BUT
STRANGELY CITY CHARTER ASSIGNS BUILDINGS OWNED BY
THE CITY TO FACILITIES MAINTENANCE BUT DOES NOT
ASSIGN LAND TO ANYONE. CITY CURRENTLY OWNS OVER
16,000 ACRES OF LAND.>>Daryl: FOR OUR VIEWERS
BENEFIT. THIS IS CHARTER QUESTION 8.
MOVED FROM 7. I MISSPOKE ABOUT THAT.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT, ARE YOU FOR THE AMENDMENT THAT
HELPED THE ENVIRONMENT AND FOR POPULATION CONTROL?
I THINK WE’RE TALK ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS.
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS LAND?
I MEAN, I THINK THAT MR. ROTHSTEIN ASKED A VALID
QUESTION. WHY ISN’T THIS SOMETHING THAT
CAN BE DONE? ARE THESE PROBLEMS THAT THIS
IS MEANT TO ADDRESS? AS OPPOSED TO THE LACK OF
PEOPLE DOING IT, WHAT’S THE PROBLEM.
>>PROBLEM, TWO CURRENTLY EXISTS AND THIRD IS
ANTICIPATED. FIRST ONE IS THE MAINTENANCE
AND FACILITIES, TO PREVENT DUMPING, TO DEAL WITH
VAGRANCY, DEAL WITH PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT, THAT
MAY EVEN BE UNSAFELY UNTIL UNSAFE CONDITION, TO HAVE
PEOPLE WHO ARE ASSIGNED TO CORRECT THAT.
THE SECOND ONE IS THE NEGOTIATION OF LANDS THAT
COME TO THE CITY. THOSE OCCUR SOMETIMES BECAUSE
SOMEONE DIES AND LEAVES THEM TO THE CITY.
THEY CAN OCCUR BECAUSE OF A UNILATERAL AGREEMENT,
DEVELOPER WANTS SOMETHING AND DECIDES TO DONATE A PARK AND
RIDE FACILITY FOR DAY CARE CENTER AND SOMEONE NEEDS TO
NEGOTIATE THAT WITH ALL THE PERSPECTIVES IN MIND RATHER
THAN JUST TAKE THE DEAL.>>Daryl: THAT’S HAPPENING
NOW, RIGHT?>>IT’S HAPPENING IN A SPARSE
FASHION. IT’S HAPPENING FROM SO MANY
DIFFERENT SOURCES. LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION
FUND, SO MANY WAYS THAT ONE SHOULD HAPPEN AND EACH
ASSIGNED TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT.
THAT WE’RE LOOKING FOR CONSOLIDATION SO THAT THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE HIRED TO DO IT HAVE THE PROFESSIONAL
EXPERTISE, HAVE THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, AND
IT’S NOT AN ADJUNCT TO OTHER THINGS THEY’RE DOING, AND
THAT THEY’RE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE CITY DOING IT.
>>Daryl: DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT?
>>YEAH. I STILL DON’T COMPREHEND WHY,
SAY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT CAN’T MAINTAIN THE PARKS AND
NEED SOMEBODY ELSE TO MANAGE THE PARK WITH.
WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE CITY HAS ENTIRELY TOO MUCH
LAND. IF YOU CAN’T USE IT, SELL IT
OFF, AND USE THE MONEY TO FUND WHATEVER ELSE WE’RE DOING.
SO THAT YOU DON’T HAVE TO RAISE TAXPAYERS TAXES.
THE USE OF PROPERTY, LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
>>Daryl: ONLY GOT A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
>>BACK WHEN THE CITY WAS DISCUSSING WHAT WOULD BE DONE
WITH THE PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF SMITH AND BERETANIA
STREET. FASI ADMINISTRATION WAS
COMING UP WITH ALL KIND OF PROPOSALS.
THE LAND WAS SUPPOSED TO DEDICATED TO A PARK.
AND THE PARKING LOT. UNDERGROUND PARKING LOT.
THAT WAS THE PROVISIONS OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER.
>>Daryl: SUM UP.>>FASI ADMINISTRATION CAME
UP WITH PLANS FOR APARTMENT BUILDING ON PROPERTY AND FOR
COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY.
AND FINALLY, WE GOT THEM TO AGREE THAT NO, IT WAS GOING TO
BE A PARK AND A PARKING LOT. AND SO THE CITY WINDS UP WITH
PROPERTY AND IT DOESN’T HAVE A REAL NEED FOR THE PROPERTY.
OR IT DOESN’T EVEN HAVE THE BASIC IDEA OF HOW TO USE THE
PROPERTY. AND SO IT THROWS OUT ALL OF
THESE WEIRD PLANS. I DON’T THINK THAT HAVING A
OFFICE OF PLANNING IS GOING TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, HAVE YOU AN OFFICE OF PLANNING.
>>I JUST HAVE TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING ABOUT THE CHARTER
AMENDMENT. SO THE PEOPLE DON’T GET THE
WRONG IMPRESSION WHAT ANDREW HAS SAID.
THE CONCERN DURING THE DELIBERATION WAS THAT THIS
OFFICE MAY SELL OFF PARKLANDS.
SO IT IS SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN TO EXEMPT PARKLANDS.
THERE’S NO DANGER OF THAT.>>Daryl: 30 SECONDS.
ASK THIS QUICKLY. DO YOU SEE CONSOLIDATING ALL
THE PEOPLE NOW THAT ARE DOING THIS VARIOUS DEPARTMENT INTO
A SINGLE DEPARTMENT?>>YES.
>>Daryl: THAT’S PRETTY DRAMATIC CHANGE IN THE CITY
STRUCTURE.>>CORRECT.
>>Daryl: THAT WAS AMENDMENT 8?
>>YES.>>Daryl: OKAY.
I THINK THAT WE’RE ABOUT OUT OF TIME.
THANK YOU BOTH. IT’S BEEN VERY ENLIGHTENING.
HELPED PEOPLE OUT. APPROACHING THIS AMENDMENTS.
THANKS AGAIN.>>HOPE SO.
>>Daryl: JOIN US NEXT WEEK AS WE CONTINUE WITH OUR LEAKS
COVERAGE. THERE ARE BROCHURE.
GET THOSE ON LINE. DISCUSSION WHY YOUR VOTE
COUNTS. JOIN A PANEL OF POLITICAL
OBSERVERS AND YOUNG VOTERS IMPORTANCE OF EXERCISING ONE
OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT RIGHTS A CITIZEN.
WHY VOTE? NEXT TIME ON INSIGHTS ON PBS
HAWAII. I’M DARYL HUFF.
A HUI HO.

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