Good evening everyone, welcome to our programme the day after the referendum of independence of Catalonia The situation seems without a solution and Europe seems particularly silent on the matter. And now what? This will be the first issue we discuss with Pietro De Matteis, good evening. Maybe first of all a introduce yourself, you represent the movement Stand Up for Europe, maybe you wish to say one word on that to explain. Sure, Stand Up for Europe is a citizens’ movement. The objective is to reconnect the citizens with the European project and to do so we organise several activities and we have teams in several European cities and we are very present on social media.
Today’s situation in Catalonia that Michel de Waele was talking about, focusing on the risks that it may entails… Did you expect these violences during the referendum in Catalonia? Frankly not. It was shocking. It is a failure of both parties. As a citizens movement we condemned these violences which took place in Catalonia and in Barcelona. I truly think that it was a failure for both parties which were not able to avoid these violences and the result is being paid by Catalan citizens who are now in hospital. 900 people apparently.
Now it is urgent to go back to dialogue and find a solution that can be shared by both parties. Yes, that is actually what Europe is also demanding. We will get back to that in a minute. Pietro De Matteis On this point more precisely, you as a member of this movement Stand Up for Europe, are you disappointed to see the attitude of Europe today, in dealing with this issue in Catalonia?
Well, this indeed shows once again that today’s Europe is not ready to manage a situation in which we would need “more Europe”. I personally think that today’s situation shows how on the one hand globalisation has weakened nation states but, on the other hand, it is clear that Europe (EU) does not yet have the powers and the capacity to solve problems such as this one.
In this context it is clear: we need a new “social contract” at European level (but also in this specific case, for Spain), in which all sides – and all citizens – can find themself and re-establish trust. Therefore, a federal Europe and, why not, a federal Spain? Thank you to both of you for your explanations we go now to the second topic of today’s programme…