Proposed legislation takes on robocalls
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Proposed legislation takes on robocalls


DEALING WITH THIS TRAGEDY. TURNING NOW TO TAKING ON ROBOCALLS, MY NEXT GUEST RECENTLY INTRODUCED LEGISLATION IN CONGRESS TO CRACK DOWN ON THOSE CALLS. JOINING ME RIGHT NOW IS NEW JERSEY CONGRESSMAN, HOUSE AGRICULTURE COMMITTEE MEMBER AND AUTHOR OF THE ROBOCALL ENFORCEMENT ACT OF 2019, JEFF VAN DREW. IT’S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME THIS MORNING.>>GREAT TO BE HERE WITH YOU AGAIN, THANK YOU. MARIA: YOU JUST HEARD AMBASSADOR SCOTT BROWN. YOUR REACTION, WHAT DO YOU SEE IN TERMS OF NECESSARY MOVES AT THIS POINT FROM THE U.S. IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE KNOW TOOK PLACE IN NEW ZEALAND OVERNIGHT?>>WELL, OBVIOUSLY AS WE FIND OUT MORE, IT’S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT THAT WE HELP IN ANY WAY AND I KNOW THAT WE WILL INTELLIGENCE GATHERING TO MAKE SURE ANY ASSISTANCE THEY NEED, TECHNICAL AND OTHERWISE IS THERE. I WOULD ALSO SAY, I THINK THAT — ALL OF US HAVE THE SAME REACTION. THERE’S JUST TOO MUCH HATE IN THE WORLD, TOO MUCH HURT. YOU KNOW, IT STARTS WITH SOCIAL MEDIA. WE FEEL THAT WE CAN SPEAK TO EACH OTHER A CERTAIN WAY. IT STARTS WITH POLITICS AND THE WAY THAT WE BEHAVE AND PEOPLE DEAL WITH EACH OTHER AND IT’S JUST EXTENDED INTO THESE HORRIBLE HATEFUL ACTS THAT P HAPPEN. SOME DAY I HOPE THAT WE REALLY TRULY REALIZE WE ALL HAVE THE SAME BLOOD FLOWING IN OUR VEINS, THAT WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS, AND THAT WE SHOULD LOVE EACH OTHER A LITTLE BIT MORE. THIS IS A BAD DAY. MARIA: I’M SO GLAD YOU SAID THAT, CONGRESSMAN. YOU’VE BEEN AMONG THOSE WHO ARE VERY MUCH WANTING TO WORK WITH THE OTHER SIDE, WILLING TO WORK WITH THE OTHER SIDE ON POLICY AND YOU DON’T SEE THAT ENOUGH IN THE CONGRESS. I MEAN, YOU’RE FROM NEW JERSEY. I WANT TO GET TO THE ROBOCALL BILL IN A MINUTE. YOU’RE FROM YOU NEW JERSEY, HIGH TAXES, SALT DEDUCTIONS TOP OF THE AGENDA ISSUE. NUMBERS OUT ESTIMATE THAT OVER 10 MILLION PEOPLE WILL LOSE OUT ON DEDUCTIONS FOR STATE AND LOCAL TAXES CUE TO THE 2017 TAX OVERHAUL, BEING FELT THE MOST IN HIGH TAX STATES LIKE NEW YORK, CALIFORNIA AND YOUR STATE OF NEW JERSEY. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE HERE AND HOW HARD WILL THE BITE BE COME APRIL 15th, IF YOUR VIEW?>>THE BITE’S GOING TO BE HARD FOR SOME FOLKS. YOU’RE RIGHT, FOR SOME FOLKS IT WON’T BE AS MUCH. UNFORTUNATELY, NEW JERSEY IS A HIGH TAX STATE AS WELL AS THE OTHER ONES THAT YOU MENTIONED AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE TAXES CUT. I HATE WHEN WE SAY OKAY, WE HAVE A TAX CUT, I SUPPORT TAX CUTS, AND I’M NOT FAULTING ANYBODY FOR THIS BUT THE REALITY IS, WHEN WE CAP THAT DEDUCTION IT HURTS A LOT OF FOLKS AND THEY REALLY DON’T GET THE TAX CUTS. SO I THINK WE NEED LEGISLATION AND THERE ARE VARIOUS PIECES OUT THERE, NOTHING IS MOVED FORWARD YET BUT I HOPE AT SOME POINT IT DOES BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO CUT TAXES, WE SHOULD FOR EVERYBODY, PARTICULARLY THE MIDDLE CLASS AND — MARIA: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY TO SOME OF YOUR COLLEAGUES IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY, LIKE AN ELIZABETH WARREN, WHO IS CALLING FOR A TAX ON WEALTH? RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU’VE GOT IDEAS FROM AOC OF 70% TAX RATES. YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING TAXES BECAUSE YOU SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE HURTING FROM THE HIGH TAXES IN NEW JERSEY, STATE TAXES AND LOCAL TAXES, NEW YORK THE SAME THING. HOW ARE YOU DEALING WITH ALL THESE PROPOSALS FROM SOME OF YOUR COLLEAGUES ON THE SHARP LEFT?>>WELL, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. I MEAN, THE ANSWER IS NOT ALWAYS MORE TAXES. THAT CERTAINLY IS NOT WHERE WE NEED THE TO GO. WHEN YOU GET TO RATES OF 70% AND HIGHER, THEN YOU ARE NO LONGER A CAPITALIST COUNTRY. YOU ARE THEN BECOMING A SOCIALIST COUNTRY AND AS I’VE SAID TO YOU BEFORE AND I SAY HE VERY OFTEN, I AM NOT A SOCIALIST. I AM A CAPITALIST. I AM A COMPASSIONIST CAPITALIST. WHICH MEANS THAT AT TIMES, I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE, WE NEED A SAFETY NET. THERE IS A PLACE FOR GOVERNMENT. BUT WE JUST CAN’T RUN EVERYTHING AND TAX EVERYTHING THEN WE LOSE INITIATIVE IN THE COUNTRY. MARIA: I’M VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOU, CONGRESSMAN. YOU’VE GOT THE RIGHT IDEAS BECAUSE YOU UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMY CLEARLY, KEVIN KELLY.>>IT’S KEVIN KELLY HERE. I THINK WE’RE TIP-TOWING AROUNDO I THINK WE’RE TIP-TOWING AROUNDI I THINK WE’RE TIP-TOWING AROUNDG AROUND THE MAIN POINT WHEN IT COMES TO TAXES. OUR TAX CODE IS 75,000 PAGES, RIGHT. AND SO THE SALT DEDUCTION IS HURTING PEOPLE BECAUSE THE WEALTHY CAN FIND LOOPHOLES AND THEY CAN GET OUT OF IT. WE’VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED IN NEW YORK WHERE AMAZON’S NOT COMING HERE, WHY, BECAUSE PEOPLE VIEWED IT AS CORPORATEISM, RIGHT. PEOPLE SAW IT AS GIVING BASICALLY SUBSIDIES TO A COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY DIDN’T NEED THEM, RIGHT. THAT’S CRONY CAPITALISM AT ITS FINEST. HOW DO WE PINPOINT AND ADDRESS THIS? CAN WE SIMPLIFY THE TAX CODE? IS THERE ANYTHING BEING DONE? S.>>WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE WANT TO. IF WE WORK HARD ENOUGH, OF COURSE WE CAN AND IF YOU GET BOTH SIDES TO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD, WE CAN. THAT’S THE QUESTION. THIS HAS BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT AND DEBATED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. I AGREE WITH YOU. I’D LIKE A SIMPLER TAX CODE. I’D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT MIDDLE CLASS FOLKS, WORKING PEOPLE, SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE ARE REALLY GETTING THE BREAK THAT THEY NEED AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY NEED. THAT’S WHAT THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN ABOUT. IT’S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT HARD WORKING PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE. THAT’S WHAT DRIVES THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO AMAZON, CERTAINLY I SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I DON’T LOVE THAT YOU HAVE TO INCENTIVEIZE COMPANIES THAT ARE DOING WELL TO COME TO YOUR STATE BUT IT’S THE WAY THAT IT IS NOW. SO UNTIL WE CHANGE IT, YOU KNOW, THEY’RE NOT GOING TO BE WHERE THEY ORIGINALLY THOUGHT, OBVIOUSLY, IN NEW YORK. THEY ARE WELCOME TO COME DOWN TO ATLANTA COUNTY OR DOWN TO SOUTH JERSEY WHERE I AM BECAUSE I HAVE DIFFERENT COUNTYS IN MY DISTRICT THAT WOULD HELP THEM AND INCENTIVEIZE THEM AND I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT WOULD AS WELL. THE NAME OF THE GAME IS JOBS, BUSINESS, AND GOOD HEALTHY COMPETITION. MARIA: WHAT ABOUT THE ROW BOWL CALLS, CONGRESSMAN. YOU’RE INTRODUCING LEGISLATION AIMED AT COMBATING ANNOYING ROBOCALLS. TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROPOSAL.>>WE’RE SPEAKING ABOUT HUGE ISSUES THAT ARE OVER-ARCHING. IT ALSO COMES DOWN TO SMALLER ISSUES THAT AFFECT OUR EVERYDAY LIVES. I DON’T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE REALLY TIRED OF THIS AND WE DID A NO CALL LIST. I WAS THE AUTHOR IN NEW JERSEY OF THE NO CALL LISS. WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE THE END OF IT. THE PROBLEM IS, THE ENFORCEMENT. WE DON’T HAVE THE PROPER ENFORCEMENT AGAINST THESE ROBOCALLS AND TELEMARKETING AND SPOOFING FOR THOSE THAT DON’T KNOW WHAT SPOOFING IS. IT IS SIMPLY WHEN A NUMBER COMES UP AND YOU BELIEVE THAT IT’S A CERTAIN NUMBER BUT WHEN YOU PICK IT UP IT’S NOT. IT’S A ROBOCALLER AGAIN. MARIA: THESE CALLS HAVE PICKED UP. I’M GETTING THEM TOO.>>A LOT. MARIA: IT’S SO ANNOYING, YOU’RE RIGHT, CONGRESSMAN.>>THEY’VE PICKED UP A LOT. AND THEY INTERRUPT PEOPLE’S LIVES. WE ARE BOTHERED ENOUGH. PEOPLE ARE QUITE FRANKLY TENSE ENOUGH AND JUST HAVE THIS ON TOP OF IT. THIS INCREASES THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS, INCREASES THE FINES AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY INCREASE THE ENFORCEMENT TO FINALLY STOP THIS. MARIA: THAT’S THE KEY.>>IT’S GETTING WORSE, NOT BETTER. MARIA: THAT’S THE KEY, ENFORCEMENT.

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