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Should President Trump release transcript of call with Ukraine’s president?


FOX NEWS.>>Shannon: SO FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN HAS MAINTAINED THAT HIS SON’S BUSINESS DEALINGS HAD NO IMPACT ON HIS POLICIES. WHEN BIDEN WAS STILL VICE PRESIDENT, HE TOLD THE ATLANTIC IN AUGUST 2016 ABOUT THIS EPISODE. HE SAID I PUSHED HIM ON GETTING RID OF A CORRUPT PROSECUTOR GENERAL. WE HAD COMMITTED A BILLION DOLLARS. I SAID YOU’RE NOT GETTING YOUR BILLION DOLLARS. THAT STORY COMPLICATED BY THE FACT THAT BIDEN’S SON, HUNTER AND HIS BUSINESS PARTNER’S FIRM WERE REPORTEDLY PART OF A BROAD EFFORT BY IN WELL-CONNECTED DEMOCRATS IN A PERIOD WHEN THE COMPANY WAS FACING INVESTIGATIONS, NOT JUST BY DOMESTIC UKRAINIAN FORCES BUT BY OFFICIALS IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. THAT’S ALL ACCORDING TO “THE NEW YORK TIMES.” TALK ABOUT IT WITH DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST, KEVIN WALLING AND BLACK BLAKEMAN. WELCOME ON THIS FRIDAY NIGHT.>>HI, SHANNON. GOOD EVENING.>>Shannon: LET’S START WITH THIS. THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, BIDEN, HAS ISSUED A STATEMENT SAYING — TALKING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT. “THIS BEHAVIOR IS ABHORRENT. DONALD TRUMP SHOULD RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS OF THE CALL IN QUESTION.” BRAD, A SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL IS TELLING US THAT HE MIGHT JUST DO THAT BECAUSE THE MEDIA IS OVERPLAYING WHAT THIS WAS.>>I THINK IF THE ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL WAS READ THESE DOCUMENTS, IT’S IN THE PRESIDENT’S INTEREST TO RELEASE THEM, HE SHOULD. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. YOU HAVE AN UNNAMED FACELESS BUREAUCRAT THAT HAS SUBJECTED HIS INTERPRETATION OF A PRESIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION WITH A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT. SUBJECTING HIS OWN PERSONAL BENT ON IT TO A CONSTITUTIONAL FIGURE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THIS IS UNHEARD OF. I DON’T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR IT.>>Shannon: ISN’T THAT WHAT WHISTLE-BLOWERS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO? THERE WAS A FRAME WORK PUT IN PLACE –>>HOW DID THAT GET TO THE PUBLIC? THAT’S THE PROBLEM HERE. HOW DID THIS COMPLAINT GET TO THE PUBLIC? IT HURT OR FOREIGN POLICY, THE PRESIDENT’S ABILITY TO CONDUCT IT. BY THE WAY, THIS IS THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG. JOE BIDEN BRIBING THE UKRAINIANS. THEY’RE NOT GROWING TO GET THE MONEY THAT IS DUE THEM UNLESS AND UNTIL A PROSECUTOR THAT IS INVESTIGATING HIS SON WAS FIRED. GUESS WHAT? HE WAS FIRED. UKRAINIANS GOT THE MONEY. SO I WOULD CAUTION DEMOCRATS. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. YOU WANT TO START ANOTHER WITCH HUNT? THE PRESIDENT WILL BE VICTORIOUS AGAIN.>>Shannon: REGARDLESS OF WHERE THIS GOES WITH BIDEN’S SLICE OF THE STORY, HE HAS TO NOW STILL ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. IT DOES DREDGE THIS UP. THE “WALL STREET JOURNAL” REPORTING ON THIS SAYING ACCORDING TO THEIR SOURCE, MR. TRUMP DID NOT MENTION A PROVISION OF U.S. AID TO UKRAINE ON THE CALL. THERE WAS NOT QUID PRO QUO FOR HIS COOPERATION. IF THAT PLAYS OUT TO BE TRUE, THIS IS MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING.>>THERE WERE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE WHISTLE-BLOWERS. WE DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. WE DON’T KNOW THAT THERE ARE ANY POLITICAL MOTIVATIONS AS THE PRESIDENT SAID IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY. WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THERE WAS SOME PROMISE MADE IN THE CALL THAT RAISED AN ALARM WITH AN INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL. IT DIRECTED THEM TO GO THROUGH THEIR CHANNELS TO RAISE THIS CONCERN TO THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATORS AT THE DNI’S OFFICE. SO THIS PROCESS IS PLAYING OUT THE WAY IT SHOULD IN THAT AGENCY AND WE NEED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT.>>Shannon: THERE CALLS FOR IT TO GO PUBLIC, THE COMPLAINT AND THE CALL. AT LEAST IN PART BECAUSE THERE’S SOME NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS. EVERYTHING IN WASHINGTON HAS BLACK LINES THROUGH IT. SEAN DAVIS TWEETING THIS. THE LATEST MEDIA MANUFACTURED FAUX SCANDAL. FINAL WORD FROM YOU BOTH.>>I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING DOWN ANOTHER SLIPPERY SLOPE. YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE ADAM SCHIFF THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE. HE’S THE ONE THAT SAID THAT THEY HAD EVIDENCE THAT THE PRESIDENT COLLUDED WITH THE RUSSIANS. HE HAD NO EVIDENCE. THE PRESIDENT WAS CLEARED OF ANY COLLUSION CHARGES. SO DEMOCRATS WANT TO HARP ON A “NEW YORK TIMES” STORY AFTER THEY WERE DEBUNKED A WEEK AGO? THAT HAD NO FACTUAL BASIS TO A STORY? NO. I THINK DEMOCRATS SHOULD PROCEED WITH CAUTION.>>Shannon: KEVIN, YOU THINK DEMOCRATS ARE LIKE THE BOY THAT CRIED WOLF. WE DON’T KNOW WHAT IS THE BOMB SHELL THAT IT’S ME SENTED TO BE.>>I NEVER CALLED FOR THIS PRESIDENT TO BE IMPEACHED. I THINK I’M A REASONABLE DEMOCRAT. I THINK WE NEED TO SHOW WHERE THE EVIDENCE LEADS. LET’S GET IT OUT IN THE OPEN. LET’S ALSO MAKE SURE THAT A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ISN’T REQUESTING THE ASSISTANCE OF A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO ATTACK A POLITICAL OPPONENT.>>Shannon: WHETHER IT’S BIDEN OR TRUMP?

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