Social Security Legislation Rewrite Bill – Committee Stage – Part 3 – Video 3
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Social Security Legislation Rewrite Bill – Committee Stage – Part 3 – Video 3


bill third reading call call on government order of the day number five social security legislation rewrite bill committee stage continued I declare the house and Committee for further consideration of the Social Security legislation rewrite bill mr. chairman the house is in committee for further consideration of the Social Security legislation re white re right bill members when we were last considering this bill we were debating part three the Honorable Louise up Stern had the call and she has two minutes 17 seconds remaining I call Thank You mr. chair and this is a really significant piece of legislation the opportunity arose in the last Parliament to really rewrite legislation so it was we ensured it was fit for purpose and it was originally written in nineteen in the 1960s so clearly needed some significant work so we are on part three of this piece of legislation and I think it’s important that we look at the individual sub parts in part three the one that I want to talk to specifically and I know it’s a different point than I was on before mr. chair so I do want to move on to a new section of this debate and this is around MSDS obligations and we have seen a significant 500-page sop tabled by the minister already in this and I’m wondering if the minister has any other intentions to table further sops around a mestizo obligations given the lengthy discussions in commentaries that the ministers made about MST in frontline staff ensuring that beneficiaries are given everything they are entitled to so mr. chair would be very useful if the minister was able to take a call and outline who plans for changes to a mestizo obligations and whether or not she will be tabling an additional sop to change this legislation to ensure that those on benefit supported fully and one of the examples that I’m sure my colleagues will pick up is one of the headings under part three sub part three is sorry sub Part two around a mestizo obligations are the steps to explain overseas absence rules and this has an issue that’s come up a lot with particularly with the government’s intention to introduce the one to energy payment which is coming into effect on the first of July and there’s been quite a lot of confusion around what those who would automatically be receiving the winter energy payment would be required to do but more importantly mr. chair I called the Honorable Louise Ups them thank you mr. Chia more importantly amidst these obligations because subpart 2 was about MSDS obligations to explain there was the rules relating to absence from New Zealand and I know the minister’s committed to ensuring that each and every person who is receiving a benefit whether it’s the ones the energy payment sole parent benefit or a job seeker benefit is to ensure that they receive every entitlement that they can get therefore wanting to know what changes that the minister is proposing to ensure that those receiving benefits beneficiaries aren’t caught out because MSD haven’t taken additional steps that they could have taken to ensure people comply with their obligations and part three of course is about obligations the obligations and close dude amidst these obligations which are outlined in subpart 2 which is my focus in this contribution and then further on which I’ll come back and talk about in another contribution to this debate is beneficiaries obligations but I know the other side too quick to talk about obligations on beneficiaries so I’m specifically talking about Ms T’s obligations in this and making sure that the obligations are clear that MSD fulfills their obligations I want the minister to answer for me any plans she has by tabeling additional SOPs in this legislation and to ensure that this Parliament has the opportunity to scrutinize and debate these issues I think there would be many people who would want to see additional guidance additional obligations on MSD to ensure that people aren’t aren’t breaking any rules because they haven’t been made aware of them fully in the first place and I think the area of around overseas absence is a very clear and specific example and in some of the part to contribution members on this side had supplementary order papers related to the winter energy payment and this I know is a particular issue where if somebody’s receiving the 1 to energy payment from the 1st of July which by the way is a lot shorter than they were anticipating it because it was meant to come in on the 1st of April what they don’t want to do given that the colder months have already arrived we now have snow on the desert road so that when the winter energy payment comes in on the 1st of July making sure that MST have have complied with their obligations to outline to those receiving benefits such as the winter energy payment which is new and this rewrite that the winter energy payment those who are receiving it understand what they have to do so they don’t inadvertedly not disclose their absences which would of course mean a reduction and what they’re entitled to and mr. chair one of the things that is really stressful for for people and particularly for beneficiaries is if they were to get a bill because they had an overpayment and they’ve got to pay it back and so you know there is a real obligation on MSD in this section of the Social Security legislation rewrite though which is part three sub part two and it says MSD must make people affected aware of their obligations the consequences of non-compliance and their review in appeal rights and this is about making sure that people understand and we recognize that there’s a variety of New Zealanders who gets assistance and under our Social Security system and the obligation is clearly on MSD to ensure in a sensible and practical way that people know their obligations that they know the consequences of failure to comply with those obligations and in some cases maybe sanctions imposed if they don’t comply so this obligation on MSD is really important The ministers spoken a lot in the public about sanctions about the fact that she doesn’t believe that there should be the same level of obligations on those receiving benefits so I’m expecting that the Minister will be making changes in part three sub part 2 on M s T’s obligations to ensure that people are aware of their obligations any any potential consequences of failure to comply with the beneficiary’s obligations we’re not talking about that part yet that’s sub par 3 thank you Michael the Honourable Alfred Nora Thank You mr. chair so it’s honored to take a call on this part three of the bill

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